The problem: many Area 51 suggestions are similar / duplicates of other proposals. The classic example of this week was Astrophotography which was a duplicate of (wait for it...) Astrophotography.

The current solution: rely on a group of volunteers to check out the new proposals and use a combination of the poor search feature and their memory to identify and close duplicates (which works as long as five volunteers (the number required to close) do this).

The proposed solution: just as the other sites provide similar questions as soon as you've entered the question title, so Area 51 could identify similar proposals. This would:

  1. Save a lot of manual work (identifying and closing new proposals).
  2. Be more friendly for new users (who may wonder why their great ideas are closed).
  3. Not be a lot of work for developers (since it is a reuse of an existing feature).

What do you think?

Oh, and could someone please close Astrophotography? Done thanks.

Update: if you do this please also add a check on the words code, programming and any of the popular languages (C++, Java, etc). Anyone adding a description with these words gets the message, Is this in conflict with Stack Overflow? This will also prevent all the SO subsets...

Update 2: if the previous update is a specific instance, perhaps a more general option could be added: that of adding synonyms at time of creation. E.g. when creating a proposal about firearms you could also add synonyms like shooting.

Bounty: it seems like I need to offer bounty to get some momentum here. So the bounty will be offered to whoever (in order of preference):

  1. Resolves this issue (i.e. from SO team).
  2. Anyone who can improve to this proposal, either by refining it or by explaining why it should not be implemented.
  3. Anyone who adds good testimonials to increase the chance that this will get implemented.

If it gets implemented, it will save a lot of work so please support if you agree.

Bounty awarded: to @David for his implemented solution. In a couple of weeks it would be good to check if this is sufficient.

New related question: Automatically search existing sites for Area 51 site suggestions


This feature has been implemented since shortly after Area 51 launched. Screenshot:

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There are some improvements we could make (using the description to match, and not just the title; improving search), but for several of these examples it seems like users just ignored the existing proposals.


We now match prefixes, so "astro" will match "astrophotography". We also show a bit of the audience, so users will be able to see whether it actually matches or not since titles aren't always very descriptive. Here's what it looks like now:

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  • @David - thanks for the response but I don't think it is enough. Why not do a full string search so "photography" will also show "astrophotography" (then sorted on relevance, if possible). And what about my updated idea of highlighting synonyms? I appreciate the step you've taken but it is only a small difference. So many proposals are being created that need to be closed by volunteers at the moment and as the number of proposals increases this will not be sustainable. – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Sep 29 '10 at 17:24
  • @Mark those are significantly more difficult. I'd like to see what impact these easier changes have and revisit this in a week or two. – David Fullerton Sep 29 '10 at 17:30
  • @David - well, then the bounty will be gone... :) Seriously though, you say changes - isn't there only one change - prefix matching? – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Sep 29 '10 at 17:58
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    @Mark We show the audience as well now, so I think it'll be harder to ignore. See the screenshot above. – David Fullerton Sep 29 '10 at 18:01
  • @David - OK, thanks. I guess then the best think to do is, as you say, wait a couple of weeks and then re-evaluate. Thanks for the change and response. I'll wait a while before awarding the bounty in case someone else has a brilliant response. =:-) – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Sep 29 '10 at 18:38
  • @David - I have to be honest - I don't think it is working yet. Can you also check on the description: see e.g. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/21927/haskell and area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/21884/… created in the last 24 hours. – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Oct 1 '10 at 11:40
  • @David - eg, when someone adds a description with the word developer, "Stack Overflow" (or a warning, or similar [closed] proposals) will appear. – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Oct 1 '10 at 12:54
  • @David - well, two weeks on and I think your solution is working well. It's not catching all duplicates (e.g. a synonym check would still help) but it is stopping a lot. Thanks! – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Oct 12 '10 at 7:53
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    @Mark great to hear! – David Fullerton Oct 12 '10 at 12:37

update Substring search is now implemented, thus delivering more potential dupe-candidates.

One problem is the lack of substring searching. In theory I could e.g. propose Physicists without ever becoming aware of the Physics proposal (although I'm sure the former would be considered the too subjective version anyway).

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  • absolutely, and I supported your question. You also offered a bounty there - did anything come of it? – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Sep 27 '10 at 11:28
  • @Mark Robinson: not yet. I guess it is currently not considered a high-priority thing with all the beta sites around... – Tobias Kienzler Sep 27 '10 at 12:04
  • yes, it is implemented! I'm very pleased you promoted this - I think these two additions will make a big difference. Thanks to the SO team (@David Fullerton). – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Sep 30 '10 at 10:38

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