Take a look at this proposal. Notice anything strange? (if you didn't, try using Area 51's search facility, keyword "Roblox").

What is this I don't even know

That's right, the number of referrals (133) is greater than the number of committments (115)!

Furthermore, one user has referred MORE people than there are committed users:

119 > 115. Also, I need more referrals


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    Does it still count as a referral if somebody commits and then uncommits? – Michael Mrozek Nov 17 '10 at 19:03
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    Looks like this John Sheldejeajkeauga guy is a wizard. – Welbog Nov 17 '10 at 21:34
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    @Sid: Not really. The site is targeted at users of an online game, for which John Sheldejeajkeauga is a developer. So his referral link is on the official website. – Eric Nov 18 '10 at 8:15
  • John Sheldejeajkeauga is a man on a mission: Crash the IE6 browsers of anyone clicking the 186 referred button. – Mateen Ulhaq Dec 15 '11 at 6:12

Fixed! We don't count commitments until the user verifies their email address (to avoid artificially inflating commitment counts), but we were not doing the same for referrals. Now, a referral only counts if the user verifies their email.


You can refer people during the definition phase:

Referral link

You sure those referrals aren't from before the commitment phase began?

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    I was pretty sure that referrals during the definition phase weren't counted. Is this incorrect? – Eric Nov 17 '10 at 20:13
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    @Eric that is correct, but we stash the data in a cookie so if they commit later you can still get credited with a referral – David Fullerton Nov 17 '10 at 22:55

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