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Open Source Advertising - Sidebar - 2H 2011

It's time once again to support your favorite open source project through our Free Vote-Based Advertising for Open Source Projects. We are clearing the leader boards to start the first half of 2011 anew.

Here is your chance to create a Free Vote-Based Advertisement for an Open Source Project. Create a graphical ad for an open source programming project and post it as an answer to this question (in the right format), and it will feed live remnant ads on Stack Overflow.

Ad Requirements

It must be an advertisement soliciting the participation and contribution of programmers writing actual source code. This is not intended as a general purpose ad for consumer products which just happen to be open source. It's for finding programmers who will help contribute code or other programmery things (documentation, code review, bug fixes, etc.).

Your ad should be an original creation which has not previously appeared on Stack Overflow. Please do not resubmit entries that have appeared as ads on Stack Overflow in previous periods.

In order to work, the answers you post to this question must conform to the following rules.

Answer Template

[![Tagline to show on mouseover][1]][2]
    
  [1]: http://image-url
  [2]: http://clickthrough-url

Please do not add anything else to the body of the post. If you want to add any commentary, keep it in the comments.

Image requirements

  • The image that you create must be 220 pixels by 250 pixels
  • Can be hosted anywhere (tinypic, twitpic, your blog); we will mirror the image locally when we serve it.
  • Must be GIF or PNG
  • No animated GIFs
  • Absolute limit on file size of 150 KB

The output, which ultimately will be served in an ad slot on Stack Overflow, can be previewed by clicking through to this URL:

http://rads.stackoverflow.com/ossads/220x250

Score Threshold

There is a minimum score threshold an answer must meet (currently 6) before it will be served up by that URL and shown on Stack Overflow. You can see all the ads that currently make the threshold and meet our criteria on this page:

https://meta.stackoverflow.com/ads/display/74983

You can also view the ads that meet the threshold using George Edison's StackAd Scroller

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    Is there a license requirement for the ads? Can we assume the images are under the same CC license as the rest of the SO content? (I'm asking for reusability in other FLOSS ad networks.)
    – mario
    Jan 14, 2011 at 19:56
  • @mario is that FLOSS as in TWIT?
    – jcolebrand
    Jan 14, 2011 at 19:58
  • I figured you were. FLOSS is the name of a podcast on the This Week In Tech network, check out twit.tv/floss
    – jcolebrand
    Jan 14, 2011 at 20:07
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    @mario: As the original owner of the material (Licensor), you are allowed to post your ad on other networks WITHOUT attribution (i.e. "Licensor reserves the right to release the Work under different license terms...", Section 7(b) creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode). But that only applies to you. Everyone else would have to provide attribution if they re-posted your ad. And yes, all user-contributed content is licensed under CC BY-SA for reuse (with attribution), including the ads.
    – Robert Cartaino
    Jan 14, 2011 at 20:33
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    I noticed the format for the ad uses the alt text space for the title text. Shouldn't we use the title text for the erm... title text? Some browsers do not show the alt text when you mouseover the image.
    – Yi Jiang
    Jan 15, 2011 at 5:09
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    Indeed, the template is wrong. In sane browsers, the alt text is NOT shown on mouse over. And even when shown by non-compliant browsers, the alt should be describing what is missing, not some tag line. So maybe it should be labeled "The text used on browsers that don't support images" (like by readers used by visually impaired). If a mouse over is wanted too, then besides the alt attribute, the title should be specified as well, after the image or link URL. Like: [1]: http://image-url "Tagline to show on mouseover"
    – Arjan
    Jan 16, 2011 at 13:14
  • @Rebecca: Can you please clarify something as there seems to be a bit of confusion: some of the ads were posted in the previous threads, but never got the 6-vote threshold and therefore were never shown. It was understood last time that the ads that didn't make the cut were allowed to be reposted the next time around. Could we please have some clarification?
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 16, 2011 at 23:42
  • @mario: See this tool for an easy way to do that.
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 17, 2011 at 0:39
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    Note: As with previous iterations of this program, entries that have appeared as ads in previous periods are not eligible; however, previous entries that did not meet the minimum score threshold can be resubmitted.
    – Rebecca Chernoff
    Jan 17, 2011 at 18:25
  • Interested in election integrity? Got design skills? The ElectionAudits project (audit elections with good statistical confidence) needs some better icons/CSS/web design. Which is to say that, uh, I'm not the one to do a nice snazzy ad for it. Anyone willing to take a cut at it? Thanks :)
    – nealmcb
    Jan 26, 2011 at 0:04
  • rads.stackoverflow.com/ossads/all => this link is broken.
    – Macarse
    Jan 26, 2011 at 11:47
  • Really once more. +1 for the great idea!
    – Lukas Eder
    Feb 5, 2011 at 15:15
  • Although I'm using the image button to upload, I stackoverflow does not take my proposal. It keeps saying: "Community ads must have an image hosted at imgur.com - use the image button to upload". What's the problem with that?
    – Steven
    May 26, 2011 at 15:05

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SEScripts - Help us help you help us all!

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    Doesn't that violate some serious copyrights?
    – Constantin
    Jan 19, 2011 at 7:19
  • @Constantin Please specifiy which copyrights you are referring to?
    – BinaryMisfit
    Jan 20, 2011 at 8:04
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    @Diago: Sorry, I was thinking it would be already obviously enough. I referring to: nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#copyrights
    – Constantin
    Jan 20, 2011 at 9:22
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    Copyrights and trademarks. The likeness of mario would be protected by trademark as well.
    – Dan Grossman
    Jan 22, 2011 at 9:44
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    Wouldn't this only violate copyright only if it actually copies graphics/words rather than just the ideas? You can't copyright all instances of "a castle next to a flag on a pole". I don't know how trademarks apply in this case. (Ah, I see the original version did copy Mario's image.)
    – Fred Nurk
    Feb 4, 2011 at 15:20
  • @FredNurk: This uses the ground texture straight from Super Mario World: youtube.com/watch?v=_C6b7IUiHh4&t=7s
    – Powerlord
    Mar 9, 2011 at 16:47
  • @R.Bemrose: Then that graphic should be replaced as well.
    – Fred Nurk
    Mar 10, 2011 at 22:40
  • Aren't you allowed to use ideas artistically/humorously, even if they're trademarked? Also, no money is being made off of this, since it's an open source project. I don't think there's any need to change it further unless Nintendo actually threatens legal action. Don't let the big, scary companies bully you!
    – Dogmatixed
    Dec 5, 2011 at 12:44
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RoboGuice - The #1 Dependency Injection framework for Android

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    Nice framework, help a lot in android dev!
    – CodegistCRest
    Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45
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    The logo looks so cool!
    – Macarse
    Jan 26, 2011 at 11:46
  • Great for Android application development.
    – Manfred Moser
    Jan 26, 2011 at 20:19
  • Excellent for saving time not having to wire everything manually
    – user156629
    Jan 31, 2011 at 22:46
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    Anyone know why the hover text isn't working on this one? Format seems identical to StackExchangeScripts, which has a working hover text
    – emmby
    Feb 1, 2011 at 12:57
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Hackers wanted!

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    +1 - Unity needs all the programmers it can get :P
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Feb 1, 2011 at 22:02
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    Text positioning and a background similar to this would look good here.
    – ændrük
    Feb 1, 2011 at 22:04
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    A variation.
    – ændrük
    Feb 1, 2011 at 23:11
  • It'll never be as good as Gnome. The only thing it's good for is drawing serious people away from Ubuntu (including myself).
    – Rafe Kettler
    Mar 4, 2011 at 15:24
  • Love the new look!
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Apr 25, 2011 at 0:07
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Kod - Programmers' Editor for OS X

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    I feel it's missing a description inside the image :(
    – Macarse
    Jan 26, 2011 at 11:44
  • @Macarse: it confirms to the template (alt attribute, no title).
    – Can Berk Güder
    Jan 26, 2011 at 18:53
  • Description is completely drown by the rest, difficult to read
    – CharlesB
    Dec 5, 2011 at 10:32
  • I agree with CharlesB, I think the text could be made a bit more legible. I like it!
    – cookbr
    Mar 9, 2012 at 19:24
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NuGet it

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Tux4Kids - Educational Software Alternatives

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    Tux4Kids develops educational software (videogames) for kids, with the goal of combining fun and learning into an irresistable package. We've just finished a grand overhaul through the Google Code-in programme and are looking for developers and graphic artists to help out with further development.
    – aviraldg
    Jan 24, 2011 at 16:44
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Sage - Python based cutting edge mathematics

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  • should "open source" appear somewhere on the ad, or does it go without saying?
    – Niles
    Jan 31, 2011 at 15:53
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    I wonder if this is visible somehow in the "math" Stack Exchange - site?
    – Emil WidmannEmil
    Feb 3, 2011 at 19:21
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    Unfortunately I don't think so. As far as I can tell it's only Stack Overflow.
    – Ivan Andrus
    Feb 4, 2011 at 9:06
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boost is a collection of high quality libraries developed for the twenty first century!

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  • My apology in advance for the naive design :)
    – Khaled Alshaya
    Jan 22, 2011 at 1:13
  • There is only one problem with this Ad. Currently there are much more users willing to contribute to Boost and too few developers who actually want to be a review manager. So contributing is veeeery hard.
    – Artyom
    Jan 22, 2011 at 14:10
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    As an ad, it would be more effective if it told you what Boost is.
    – lala
    Jan 24, 2011 at 8:28
  • @lala I might change the design a bit to add a simple description. Thanks for the suggestion :)
    – Khaled Alshaya
    Jan 24, 2011 at 8:50
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    @AraK Just as a tip for you to take or leave: Tell us what it solves. For example, increase_c++_productivity(); instead of just become_booster();
    – lala
    Jan 24, 2011 at 19:16
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    This image is 220x200 pixels. It has to be be 220x220.
    – balpha StaffMod
    Jan 29, 2011 at 14:46
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    When I first saw this, I didn't notice the sideways C. I read it as boost++ and thought it was some kind of enhancement to boost.
    – Ferruccio
    Mar 10, 2011 at 12:43
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Help us build a better Python, in Python.

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    I wouldn't mind if someone made a pretty version of this ;)
    – TryPyPy
    Jan 27, 2011 at 16:59
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Our motivation is to bring the element of human context awareness to computer systems, paving the way for more user friendly and easier to use software.

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    Using Zeitgeist you can keep a log of all the files you opened with exact times, create statistics, learn your workflow and make yourself more efficient. Zeitgeist does not log only files but any activity or event like receiving calls, dropping calls, starting a track in your favorite media player. The possibilities are immense. The sky is the limit.
    – Manish Sinha
    Jan 23, 2011 at 9:12
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    and its open source
    – Seif Lotfy
    Jan 23, 2011 at 10:50
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Spruce - a nice looking TFS web front end

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CppCMS Needs Your Help http://cppcms.sourceforge.net/ad-2011a.png

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    +1 Nice project, excellent support, and friendlier for the planet. Thanks!
    – augustin
    Jan 19, 2011 at 11:57
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    tempted to give a -1 because of Comic Sans.
    – Agos
    Jan 23, 2011 at 21:23
  • @Agos - what is the problem with Comic Sans - it looks fine in this context?
    – Artyom
    Jan 24, 2011 at 11:54
  • @Art COMIC SANS! Slowly I turned... Step by step... Inch by inch...
    – user1228
    Jan 24, 2011 at 15:09
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    Comic Sans was a fine font when originally created. Now it's everywhere and speaks "amateur." Still I'm upvoting this -- once upon a time I wrote a small CMS in C. Fun it was not, young Skywalker, but I have fond memories of its performance.
    – Leonardo Herrera
    Jan 24, 2011 at 17:29
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    @Leonardo The problem in writing any kind of web application in C++ (and in C) is lack of good tools. C++ gives many goodies making programming fast and easy while CppCMS provides good web-development tools.
    – Artyom
    Jan 24, 2011 at 17:50
  • @Artyom Given that the context is an advertisement that will be served hundreds of thousands of time on a site for professionals, I don't think Comic Sans is 'fine'.
    – Yi Jiang
    Jan 25, 2011 at 7:21
  • @Agos @Will Please all "Comic Sans" Down voters I've updated the font
    – Artyom
    Feb 3, 2011 at 6:58
  • @Art I didn't actually downvote you, don't worry
    – Agos
    Feb 3, 2011 at 23:27
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FluxBB - fast, light user-friendly PHP forum system

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  • @Yi Jiang: What about that link? It was a forum post created entirely for that purpose. I guess it's fine this way, though.
    – Franz
    Jan 17, 2011 at 14:26
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    The previous link you posted was broken
    – Yi Jiang
    Jan 18, 2011 at 6:09
  • Ah no, it wasn't. But it just appeared to me that the topic was in a member-only forum :P Thanks for finding.
    – Franz
    Jan 18, 2011 at 8:06
  • Fluxbb for the win.
    – Cyclone
    May 22, 2011 at 17:29
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AnkiDroid

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  • Helps students/everyone memorize languages or anything that you could learn with paper flashcards. UI=Android, database=SQLite, sync with PC=REST. Efficient collaboration with Git. We welcome everyone and share privileges very quickly. Very open development processes, everything is public.
    – Nicolas Raoul
    Jan 29, 2011 at 9:46
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    I don't have enough rep to vote this up, but AnkiDroid is a piece of open source software that I use everyday.
    – user138168
    Jan 29, 2011 at 20:06
  • Is this supermemo based?
    – Chris S
    Jan 30, 2011 at 17:51
  • Chris S: The spaced repetition system is based on an older version of the SuperMemo algorithm called SM2. Subsequent versions of SuperMemo have managed to squeeze out a little more learning efficiency, but they come at the cost of greatly increased complexity, and they are more susceptible to scheduling errors in real-world use. We want to stay 100% compatible with "Anki", the desktop PC version, which is using this algorithm. Thanks for your interest!
    – Nicolas Raoul
    Jan 31, 2011 at 0:45
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The Mylyn connector for Mantis allows you to manage your Mantis tasks straight from Eclipse

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  • Do you have a version in a lossless format (ie. png)? The jpeg compression artefacts are clearly visible here.
    – Yi Jiang
    Jan 20, 2011 at 16:57
  • @Yi Jiang: no, unfortunately the MantisBT logo is available only in raster format.
    – Robert Munteanu
    Jan 20, 2011 at 18:48
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    You're confusing raster vs. vector with lossy vs lossless here - raster formats like png can also be lossless. The jpeg compression is too high here, so you see significant artefacts around the text. Oh, and I forgot to add, this advertisement is slightly too small to meet the requirements. It should be possible to process away some of the artefacts, but you'll also need to scale it up to 220x220, as stated in the question above.
    – Yi Jiang
    Jan 20, 2011 at 18:52
  • @Yi Jiang - thanks for pointing those issues out. Fixed.
    – Robert Munteanu
    Jan 20, 2011 at 19:45
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Spark - A lightweight yet powerful JavaScript library.

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  • Before you ask, this did not get enough votes last time either.
    – Wolfy87
    Jan 17, 2011 at 11:47
  • The image links to the repository, but to get a bit of background on the library you could take a look at the documentation. sparkjs.co.uk/documentation
    – Wolfy87
    Jan 18, 2011 at 15:28
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    Nice font choices :)
    – An̲̳̳drew
    Jan 22, 2011 at 23:01
  • Love the fonts too! :)
    – Benny
    Jan 23, 2011 at 6:09
  • Thanks :] you would not believe the size of this font library! I should really redo the image though, make it a bit more interesting...
    – Wolfy87
    Jan 23, 2011 at 10:20
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    Hate the fonts. Script isn't good for an ad.
    – user1228
    Jan 24, 2011 at 15:11
  • Thanks for the feedback, I am about to upload a new version anyway.
    – Wolfy87
    Jan 24, 2011 at 16:29
  • I have written a JSON API for the docs now and implemented it in this chrome extension, head over to the docs for more info - bit.ly/dIXTtx
    – Wolfy87
    Jan 26, 2011 at 11:50
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    @Wolfy87: Looks cool! Do you have a demo page?
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Feb 1, 2011 at 5:51
  • I did for an old version, I can set up a jsFiddle today demonstrating every function. I will link it later. Thanks for taking an interest!
    – Wolfy87
    Feb 1, 2011 at 9:18
  • @George Edison: Here is a page of examples, some functions are not used there but they are self explanatory ones. jsfiddle.net/Wolfy87/A7XXD/14
    – Wolfy87
    Feb 1, 2011 at 14:30
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    @Wolfy87: Cool! +1
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Feb 1, 2011 at 20:21
  • I am writing a document right now which goes into a lot more detail than the documentation does.
    – Wolfy87
    Feb 1, 2011 at 21:01
  • Just hit v2.0.0.
    – Wolfy87
    Feb 7, 2011 at 19:53
  • Speed testing against Mootools and jQuery, Spark wins 9.5/10! jQuery beats it on setting events by a tiny margin: tumblr.com/xxh1gw21ds
    – Wolfy87
    Feb 9, 2011 at 15:20
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TwistLoad Download Manager

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  • lol, awesome slogan
    – TheLQ
    Jan 15, 2011 at 0:21
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    I don't have the download blues, but I have the upload blues: I'm looking for a user-friendly upload system to upload large files onto a server.
    – augustin
    Jan 19, 2011 at 12:05
  • @augustin: That's a feature planned for the future.
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 23, 2011 at 20:21
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    Call me confused, but is this an ad for me to download and use the application or to become and active coder on it? It clicked through to the project main page without any usable binaries so I was left confused and disappointed. Maybe the ad should go to some kind of landing page helping me to understand what you want me to do after clicking the ad.
    – Frazell Thomas
    Jan 28, 2011 at 2:27
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    @Frazell: Sorry... the ad is for someone to contribute to the project. There are no pre-built binaries on the Launchpad project page. To check out the code, visit code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/twistload/trunk
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 30, 2011 at 20:08
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    Not bluish enough. Make the "blues" blue text. :)
    – Mateen Ulhaq
    Mar 9, 2011 at 2:01
  • @augustin What about wetransfer.com ?
    – Buns Glazing
    Mar 15, 2011 at 3:20
  • @GnomeSlice thanks but no. I need a software solution / API that I can integrate into my own CMS to upload large files to my server.
    – augustin
    Mar 15, 2011 at 6:18
  • @George - The link is pointing at the right place according to the guidelines, but this does look like an ad inviting the user to download and use the application. Putting "Open Source" or "Developers Wanted" somewhere on the ad would be appropriate.
    – Kevin Vermeer
    Mar 28, 2011 at 21:53
  • @reem: Hmmm... I'll see what I can do.
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Mar 31, 2011 at 1:11
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FogBugzpp - A C++ wrapper for the FogBugz XML API

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  • I have been looking for a wrapper similar to the great C#/.NET wrappers for FogBugz - but alas, not found one. The primary reason for building this was to submit crash dumps to fogbugz with file attachments. The BugzScout tool won't support file attachments and the email interface is not reliable on all client machines and I want to have "Scout" functionality. Initial implementation is limited - only creates a simple case.
    – tim
    Jan 23, 2011 at 17:10
  • and a down-vote without a comment...! That's not cool (+1 for the lost vote)
    – Lipis
    Jan 24, 2011 at 0:41
  • For those who are curious about what I might like in an ad/graphics - nothing special - anything that strikes your fancy. I don't see trademarks for FogBugz or the kiwi for tha matter - though i might ask Fog Creek about it if they would mind at all to add that as part of the theme. C++ and something that evokes FogBuzg is all it takes. And I do appreciate that the graphic is horrible. I will withdraw the submission if I don't find a suitable graphic - it would not be appropriate - I know the team at SO has spent a lot ot time and energy on making the site look good. thanks
    – tim
    Jan 24, 2011 at 4:08
  • And yes, Yi, it does look really bad. You don't have to be polite about it. :-)
    – tim
    Jan 24, 2011 at 4:09
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    You have Fog Creek's permission to use our logo and name in advertising this project.
    – Michael Pryor
    Jan 24, 2011 at 15:54
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    tim: I hope you don't mind; I tried my hand out at making an ad for you. Revert it if you don't like it.
    – aviraldg
    Jan 24, 2011 at 16:46
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7Basic Compiler

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  • 7Basic is an attempt to create a BASIC-like language and compiler capable of generating 32 bit ELF and Win32 PE executable files. It has progressed well so far - it currently generates NASM x86 assembly code. The language currently has 3 types: INTEGER, STRING, & FLOAT (an IEEE 754 float internally). Currently supported constructs: variable assignments, basic arithmetic operations (addition, subtraction, etc...), logic operators (>, <, ==, etc...), and basic control statements (IF...THEN and WHILE).
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 24, 2011 at 0:54
  • One area for improvement for those interested: the assembly code generated is SLOW due to the nature of the assembly generating code. In fact, I tested a 7Basic snippet against an equivalent C program and the performance ratio was 80:1!
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 24, 2011 at 1:00
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A simple and intuitive approach to interface your database with Java: jOOQ is Java Object Oriented Querying. jOOQ brings the relational world to Java without covering up its origins. jOOQ is relational. And object oriented. Just in a different way.
(source: sourceforge.net)

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    This looks out of focus...?
    – Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
    Feb 21, 2011 at 20:20
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    You mean, literally? I drew it with a pen...
    – Lukas Eder
    Feb 21, 2011 at 22:23
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JetServer

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  • JetServer itself is the root process that manages communication with the other JetServer applications. (Currently JetFTP, JetHTTP, and JetDNS.)
    – uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
    Jan 17, 2011 at 0:41
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One Click Orgs: A pioneering, free web app for groups to form a legal association and govern it through member votes. Coded in Rails 3.
(source: oneclickorgs.com)

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    +1 Maybe "Web service" is ambiguous? It is a web interface for humans, not WSDL-like, as far as I know?
    – Nicolas Raoul
    Feb 4, 2011 at 9:24
  • That's a good point, thanks! We've updated the wording on the ad.
    – chrismear
    Feb 8, 2011 at 20:54
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    Seems interesting, but clicking the ad just takes you to a git repository. I guess that's okay on StackOverflow.com, but if the ad is posted anywhere else people will expect to see an actual web site.
    – Caleb
    Mar 27, 2011 at 18:27
  • Yup, we are only using this ad on Stack Overflow -- it's specifically designed for programmers!
    – chrismear
    Apr 20, 2011 at 13:37
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Contribute to the world's leading open source NAC!
(source: packetfence.org)

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Roadkill .NET Wiki engine

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  • It's...kind of morbid...
    – Buns Glazing
    Mar 15, 2011 at 3:21
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    @GnomeSlice No chickens were hurt in the making of this advert
    – Chris S
    Mar 15, 2011 at 9:05
  • +1, but I would suggest a more stomach friendly picture :)
    – Zsub
    Mar 18, 2011 at 12:32
  • @Zsub thanks for the vote, I'm not sure I can make anything pleasant based on the idea of a roadkill
    – Chris S
    Mar 18, 2011 at 15:06
  • What's the association with road kill? Because you're so hyper fast in creating web pages, that there might be casualties?
    – Lukas Eder
    Mar 20, 2011 at 11:32
  • @Lukas I couldn't think of a name and have this sign in my kitchen: taverntoys.com/zencart_138/images/road%20kill.jpg. I'm starting to think it's probably not going to help the software spread with that name
    – Chris S
    Mar 20, 2011 at 22:54
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    @Chris, that's an awesome sign in your kitchen! Well the name's not necessarily bad, I just guess people are looking for a reason why you chose it. So it's enough for you to come up with any reason. You may use my suggestion with the casualties :-)
    – Lukas Eder
    Mar 21, 2011 at 8:36

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