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I think that the privilege to retag questions has become obsolete, now that one could propose an edit with only the changed tag and gain 2 rep from it.

But deleting the retag privilege and link should be wrong. So what I propose is, when proposing an edit, if the only change is a change of tag, and if the user who made the edit has the retag privilege, then the change is automatically applied and doesn't need to be approved.

EDIT: To clarify the situation let me give an example:

I wanted to make a retag, and I was half-asleep, I used the edit button instead of the retag button and only added the tag. I got 2 rep for it.

If I used the retag button it would have been taken automatically with no rep, and so it should have been in the scenario described previously.

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  • Retag as a separate privilege has been removed.
    – Shog9
    Sep 10, 2013 at 6:43
  • @Shog9 But there is still a bage for first retag.
    – convert
    May 26 at 17:12
  • It's still an action @convert, just a specialized edit.
    – Shog9
    May 26 at 19:24
  • @Shog9 And how to manage that action?
    – convert
    May 26 at 19:59
  • Edit the question and change the tags
    – Shog9
    May 26 at 20:58
  • @Shog9 What you mean by change the tags? Do I have to change all tags?
    – convert
    May 30 at 17:57
  • Nope. Add a tag, remove a tag, replace a tag ... That all counts as a "retag", @convert
    – Shog9
    May 30 at 20:16
  • @Shog9 Strange I added a tag and then removed it, but nothing hapend.
    – convert
    May 30 at 21:44
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    There's a couple of reasons why, @convert (starting with, if you undo the edit it won't count) - for full criteria, search for "organizer" here
    – Shog9
    May 31 at 3:45
  • @Shog9 OK now I see the reason: "Edit the tags on a question asked by another user".
    – convert
    May 31 at 9:42

3 Answers 3

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Yes there was a loophole that allowed you to clog the queue with suggested edits that suggest only editing tags.

In practice this is was not a big issue:

  1. People are limited to 1000 rep from suggested edits.
  2. People servicing the queue will get "pissed off" and reject edits that abuse the queue in such a way, after 5 strikes in one day you will be banned from suggesting edits for a week.

That said, I just changed it so you must suggest more than a tag edit, if you have retag rights.


This privilege is still needed, the suggested edit queue is a scarce resource. We do not want to flood it with work that we know people are perfectly capable of doing without direct peer review.

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    Why not just auto-aprove if someone just changes the tag and has refag rights? (Whats the point of an error message when the systems knows how to fix it's self) Jul 7, 2011 at 8:37
  • its just to rare to need to do that, it would be a complex change
    – waffles
    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:26
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    I agree with Ian. Since I normally do all retags through the edit button I found it pretty irritating to have the system complain when I retagged on a low rep site. I almost wouldn't have retried, because the error message sounded like a variation of the "you didn't edit enough" error. Mar 13, 2012 at 21:59
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It happened to me too, that I accidentally choosed the way to edit, while a retag would have been the right way.

I explain my behaviour with the different, but similar looking user interfaces for accounts on different topics:

For example:

  • link|edit|close|flag on German L&U, rep: 1840
  • link|edit|retag|close|flag on Code Golf, rep: 797
  • link|edit|retag|flag on Code Review, rep: 330
  • link|edit|close|flag on StackExchange, rep: 4767

I used the edit-link before somewhere else, where it was appropriate, and didn't search for another link. I don't know why I can't retag on SE with 4k rep, but on CR with 330 rep. Yes, the borders are higher on SE, but of course it is a trap, to easy step into.

I opened a small rant over here about the misguiding error message; now I'm unsure, what to do.

From the user perspective, a silent acceptance of tag-edits would be preferable. At least the message could be improved - I didn't understand what it tried to tell me.

I suggest something like:

To just retag a question without editing title or body, don't choose the edit-link but the retag-link.

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  • try creating a new meta question tag with feature-request, you may get lots of surport. Sep 9, 2011 at 8:18
  • Did so Sep 9, 2011 at 15:53
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The privilege is still needed.

Yes you can do it via the edit route and gain 2 rep, but you can only gain a maximum of 1,000 points through edits so after a while you'll be doing this for no benefit.

Secondly do you really want to have all your retags approved?

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    That is my point, I find it ridiculous the way it is now, one shouldn't earn any rep for that if one have the retag privilege and I don't want to have retag approved, it was a mistake I made to use the edit, and I only noticed it after the fact
    – Eldros
    Feb 23, 2011 at 12:27

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