Honestly, I thought this was a stupid question until I interacted with another user on a particular question. The question is, should users vote on answers? If so, why? This other user claims to have a policy for himself to never vote, arguing that leaving a quality comment is sufficient. Is this the case?
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13Not voting sounds like a weird idea.– PekkaFeb 23, 2011 at 15:57
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7@Pekka: Yes, but you might be surprised by who else seems to share that philosophy. ;)– gnostradamusFeb 23, 2011 at 15:59
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@Pekka Normally I would up vote you for that, but hey, why vote? Clicking a arrow is way too much work.– Ivo WetzelFeb 23, 2011 at 16:00
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1@gno, that's too bad. I wonder why he doesn't vote.– jjnguyFeb 23, 2011 at 16:01
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1@Ivo I would so go on a revenge downvote spree for withholding that upvote from me! But I can't, because I don't vote. Damn!– PekkaFeb 23, 2011 at 16:28
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@Pekka Actually that's good! So there's no longer the need for the serial downvote cron! So if nobody votes, SO saves CPU time and therefore money!– Ivo WetzelFeb 23, 2011 at 16:31
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2It's strange that this question is even asked at all, but it was useful because I never knew if there were people who didn't vote. So, so weird.– tshepangFeb 24, 2011 at 20:26
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Voting is probably the third most important aspect of the site. (Right behind asking and answering)
Voting is important because it shows that other people have 'vetted' the answer. Anyone can post an answer on the site, so how do we know if it is any good? By the votes it gets.
Voting changes the order that answers appear below a question. It helps the best answer bubble up to the top of a list of mediocre answers. This way, when someone finds the question through Google, they can immediately see which answer was the best. This helps separate Stack Overflow from the general forum.
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"so how do we know if it is any good?" - Whether and how you use an answer is your responsibility. You ought to be able to, somehow, test/evaluate the quality of an answer yourself.– ChrisWFeb 23, 2011 at 16:03
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2@Chris, agreed, but the voting order can give you an idea of what you should try first. Voting isn't always 100% accurate, but it is a really good place to start.– jjnguyFeb 23, 2011 at 16:05
The vote up privilege page explains it pretty well, and there's a blog entry about voting in general that applies to answers. Besides rewarding people who post good answers (which encourages them to post more good answers), probably the most important reason is to sort the answers by quality. Answers are defaultly sorted by votes:
By upvoting the best answers, you're ensuring people see the most helpful information immediately; similarly by downvoting wrong answers you indicate that they're wrong and push them below more helpful posts
answered Feb 23, 2011 at 15:55
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1@jjnguy You don't want to play this game with me; I'll add more bulleted lists than you can handle Feb 23, 2011 at 16:04
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@Michael, hmm. I'd be forced to pull out my bold within a bulleted list. (Don't make me go there)
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I just cast my last vote of the day for this answer, damn you for taking away all my votes! Maybe if I didn't vote for answers I wouldn't have this problem... Feb 23, 2011 at 16:17
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@Michael: 7 hours, but yes, seriously. I vote a lot. Feb 23, 2011 at 16:47
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As long as no one reaches for the ultimate weapon, we'll be OK. Feb 23, 2011 at 16:49
If no one votes how are other users going to know what are the good answers and perhaps more importantly what are the bad answers?
As @jjnguy points out it shows that at least one other set of eyes has seen and reviewed the answer. It's a form of peer review as well as being a rating system. The default view is for answers to be sorted by votes so the most highly voted answer (and therefore hopefully the most correct one) is right there under the question for others to find easily.
People won't read all of the comments so won't see a "this is a good answer" comment.
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1Also if you just increment the number of votes, that's less wordy (more user-friendly) than posting a comment which says "Me too: I agree."– ChrisWFeb 23, 2011 at 16:05
I find myself agreeing with this somewhat:
Actually I strongly disagree about the (2), many (if not most) people who can vote doesn't know the right answer which is a major issue.
I don't think it's most voters who don't know the right answer, but this is the reason why I personally don't use all my votes every day. I just don't know enough to cast an informed vote on that many things.
However, if I know enough to leave a comment, then I've probably done enough testing and checking to cast a vote.
answered Feb 23, 2011 at 16:17
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@ChrisF: Yeah, I do still vote every day, even though my SO usage is quite different than it used to be. I look at far more posts for moderation than for normal Q&A, so I'm probably not a very good data point anyway. Feb 23, 2011 at 16:24
I've decided to answer, despite being absolutely unwilling to go into a political (which voting is) argument.
For starters, I am the original user who doesn't vote. Why? I see no reason to.
Most importantly: votes are anonymous. So there is exactly zero motivation on my part to cheer up based on whether the crowd likes or not. I don't care about whether the answer is popular or not; I care about whether it's correct or not. If it's not correct, someone will remark on what is wrong with it.
A signed message praising the answer could be a bonus, but it ends there. Constructive criticism is just as welcome.
Now back to the anonymity part: I dare say, nowadays, most developers and people coming to this site are mediocre (at best) developers. I have no experience with the sister sites. Not all, but most. I don't wish to insult anyone personally. It's just what happened to the software business in the last two decades. The sheer amount of downright not-smart questions is evidence.
There is some truth in selecting a good answer if you have fallen upon the question via some search and it's not your own. A highly scored answer could be good, yet I see every day a double-digit number of answers that are not exactly correct or that have shortcomings. So, my advice would be that if you see a question was well asked, take your time and read everything. If one cannot figure out what the correct answer should be, and why, based on the entire discussion, one would be better off changing professions.
Not voting comes with extra political reasoning about how the "likes"/positive votes/&c. are calculated. They are not weighted in any shape or form. Numbers/masses make nothing right or wrong to boot. There is a high chance people being massively right on a common question but rare to none of some specifics, if the best case there will be an external article topic that might have been read and stating some 'facts' people follow. It does not make it inherently correct.
Voting has become the norm on many websites, and society as a whole, but I fail to embrace it. If I believe something is useful, I prefer to be more human and chime in with some words.
There is more to say on this subject, but this post is long enough and probably reading-unfriendly, regardless of my intent to make it parsable.
Extra bonus for not voting: it reduces energy consumption and saves green trees/oil/uranium, whatever :D
Thanks and cheers!
(Ah, and yes, community wiki is an awesome option, it reduces the flux of positive reputation on the site)
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2I don't agree with you, but I like parts of your policy (especially leaving comments instead of votes). And kudos for explaining your position at length– PekkaFeb 23, 2011 at 23:44
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@Popular Demand, edit much appreciated. You must love reading/editing/writing. All good, except the part w/ sister sites visiting. "Not all but most" phrase doesn't regard the sister websites but the developers.– bestsssFeb 24, 2011 at 0:38
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2I suppose I dare not ask how you feel about voting in political elections. Feb 24, 2011 at 14:59
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2@Cody, that's a personal question and quite unrelated to the discussion. Voting in election usually boils down to picking the lesser evil. I live in a country where I have no citizenship, so I skip government elections but I vote for EU parliament, though. Yet, there are some gripes with the representative democracy but they are far beyond the scope of the discussion. I hope your question is honored.– bestsssFeb 24, 2011 at 16:39