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What is Stack Overflow Labs? Why is it sponsoring GenAI SE?

I recently noticed a new webpage: What's the purpose of this new webpage? When was this created? Was there any staff announcement about this webpage? I just got to ...
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Planned maintenance scheduled for Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 21:00 UTC

tl;dr; We are updating a piece of network hardware on Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 21:00 UTC, that will cause some internal traffic disruption for about a 1 minute duration. It's possible this could ...
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Is there a correlation between opposing the use of AI-generated content on Stack Exchange and rating AI low in general?

Intro I have seen people whose critique of ChatGPT rests on citing examples of unskillful use. Can resistance to permitting ChatGPT on Stack Exchange be in part attributed to an inaccurate appraisal ...
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Have voting patterns changed significantly after the recent change in voting button arrow style?

Two weeks ago on May 30, a change in the vote button style went live on the network. Instead of large triangles, there are now smaller triangles with larger circles around them and changed color ...
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What is the point of the "Established User" privilege on meta SE? [duplicate]

You can see the vote counts at only 100 reputation here. As far as I understand, all it lets you do is see vote counts. But here on meta it adds no new abilities, so all it is is a confusing privilege ...
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When promoting the 2023 Developer Survey, did you analyze how the phrasing of the survey invitation might have influenced responses?

It appears there were at least 2 emails sent to promote the survey on AI tool usage. One of them is titled: 2023 Dev Survey: Are you using AI tools in your workflow? the other: The 2023 Developer ...
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When will Stack Exchange's senior leadership stop breaking their own moderator agreement?

A new article about the strike was posted on The Verge. In it, it is revealed that a statement by Philippe was issued, and claims the following: When asked by The Verge about the contrast between ...
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Could SE actually work without voting?

So content will simply be "bumped" with the most recent interaction or update, like the usual forums/threads, etc. I have very rarely voted on anything in recent years (usually just looking ...
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If bad AI content gets upvoted, is the voting system the problem?

Summary If bad AI content gets upvoted, can we use that as an opportunity to understand & improve our voting system? Should we focus more on the fact that bad AI content is bad, and not that it ...
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Is SE in violation of the CC BY-SA 4.0 license by not providing data dumps?

SE is no longer providing data dumps for the content contributed by their users. CC BY-SA 4.0 states: No additional restrictions — You may not apply legal terms or technological measures that legally ...
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Moderation Strike update: Data dumps, choosing representatives, GPT data, and where we’re holding

Update On August 2nd, 2023, negotiations between community representatives and representatives of the company concluded with an agreement being reached. The details of the agreement can be found at ...
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Question ban without any reason [duplicate]

I got a question ban on Physics SE. The reason stated was that most of my questions did not met the guidelines. However, most of my questions have positive votes. What is the reason for the ban?
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Is "You need us, we don't need you" a difficult concept for S.E. leadership to understand?

Regarding the reversal of the AI generated content ban, once again I'm astonished at the self-serving decisions and actions taken by those who profit materially from this network. Alienating trusted ...
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Should striking moderators resign or lose their diamonds?

I understand that there is a moderator strike action that many diamond moderators are participating in. Should striking moderators resign their diamonds and/or have them taken away? During the major ...
Robert Columbia's user avatar
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Is the 'restrictions'/'guardrails' on dump access going to affect the Overflow Offline project?

I've generally been interested in the CSR aspect of Stack Overflow Inc. One of the initiatives that Stack Overflow Inc. was working on was the Overflow Offline project. As per your own media - it ...
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Stopping data dumps to "protect data" - harmful and threatening to the community

I find it a bit odd that "senior leadership is working on a strategy to protect Stack Overflow data from being misused by companies building LLMs", but historically has only cared about ...
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The company appears to have been particularly reticent, even somewhat secretive, regarding communications during the past several months

My reading of thousands of posts here, from over most of the time period going back to shortly after SO started, indicates the company has often not done a particularly good job of communicating with ...
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Why was "An Update to our Community and an Apology" originally deleted and can it be undeleted?

For those voting to close this as a dupe, it's not a dupe, I'm looking for non-speculative answers (an official one) and more importantly I'm looking for it to be undeleted or at the very least an ...
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What initiatives exist to create a publicly available dump of SE under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license?

SE is not providing a dump for the time being. They may do it again in the future, but with some restrictive ToS/license/etc. This makes me wonder: What initiatives exist to create a publicly ...
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How can SE gate access to the Dump that will allow individuals access to the data while preventing "misuse" by for-profit organizations?

I read this answer written by Jody Bailey: We are looking for ways to gate access to the Dump, APIs, and SEDE, that will allow individuals access to the data while preventing misuse by organizations ...
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When does the SE "senior leadership" plan to re-enable the uploads of the data dump to [duplicate]

I read this answer written by AMtwo: The job that uploads the data dump to was disabled on 28 March, and marked to not be re-enabled without approval of senior leadership. This is a huge ...
Franck Dernoncourt's user avatar
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Could someone legally replace Stack Exchange in posting the data dumps to the Internet Archive?

Recently the user discovered that without any official communication the company stopped posting the monthly data dump to the Internet Archive web site. Causes are currently unknown but some users ...
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Open feedback and questions for Philippe (regarding communication around the AI policy rollout) [closed]

For context: Philippe, you have published this post, to which, one of my responses was this post. I have received your response in the form of a comment, which, for the sake of a duly structured ...
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Why aren't all moderation policies made public?

I read this comment written by Meta Andrew T.: "I thought moderation policies were supposed to be public." just want to mention that mods also have their own mod-only help pages which have ...
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Possible solutions to why there is still so much 'attitude' and condescension on S.O. after there's been work to eliminate it

Why does SO have so much attitude and condescension, even after several measures have been taken to eliminate it? We can and need to do better Problem: S.O. still has so many people with a bad ...
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If SE won't allow heuristics to identify AI, how does it plan on stopping spam-profile accounts boosted by AI posts?

I've now seen more than 2,000 posts that I suspect are AI on Stack Overflow alone. I've flagged over 1,200 of these. The remainder were already handled, handled under one of the other flags, or in ...
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Add # next to each answer?

I would like to suggest adding the answer number (#) to each answer on a page. This makes it easier to know which answer you are at when scrolling down a list of many and long answers. For instance, I ...
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GPT on the platform: Data, actions, and outcomes

In a meeting with some moderators last week, I committed to releasing the data sets from our initial studies around the efficacy and false positive rates of ChatGPT detectors to them. Tuesday ...
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Price of AI floodgates inaction

I was going to post this as an answer (among many) under @Philippe's Statement from SO: June 5, 2023 Moderator Action, but that's currently locked, apparently due to concerns about the title, out of ...
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With AI answers now being essentially unmoderated, what data might be surfacing that demonstrates the old policy was effective?

It's been about a week since the community and moderators lost the ability to effectively moderate AI content. Given that time, we should start to see some data/patterns emerge that could tell us (...
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This community is the Stack Exchange network

I am relatively new to the Stack Exchange network, I've only been active on Stack Overflow for a few months now. I must say, I have been consistently amazed by this community and everything it does. ...
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Statement from SO: June 5, 2023 Moderator Action

Update: GPT on the platform: Data, actions, and outcomes As you may be aware, a number of moderators (on Stack Overflow/across the network) have decided to stop engaging in several activities that ...
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Moderators do not (and never did) rely blindly on automatic GPT detector tools

A recent statement from the SE company to the press suggests that company spokespeople (the CEO or whoever writes his statements) believe that moderators have been relying on ChatGPT detection tools ...
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Why wasn't the new policy about AI generated content made more visible outside of Meta?

As by question title if the company considers (by their own claim) Meta just a "minority" of the network userbase, why wasn't the new policy about AI generated content advertised more to the ...
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Looking for the right Stack Exchange site for parsing CAN bus data

I'm looking for the right place to post about a CAN bus issue I'm looking for. Specifically parsing the data I'm getting in the messages I'm receiving. Basically, I'm getting data from a CAN bus and ...
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Why wasn't the guidance to moderators on how to moderate AI Generated content made publicly available?

I read in this question written by Philippe: Stack Exchange released guidance to moderators on how to moderate AI Generated content. Why wasn't the guidance to moderators on how to moderate AI ...
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Moderation Strike: Stack Overflow, Inc. cannot consistently ignore, mistreat, and malign its volunteers

Update On August 2nd, 2023, negotiations between community representatives and representatives of the company concluded with an agreement being reached. The details of the agreement can be found at ...
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Should the Misleading Information Policy apply to Meta posts?

A brand-new Misleading Information Policy has just been released that encourages users to flag, and for moderators to delete, posts that they feel are false in a dangerous way. Many of the examples ...
Robert Columbia's user avatar
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What is the false positive rate of GPT detectors for content on the SE network? [duplicate]

I read in this answer written by Philippe: We've also identified that current GPT detectors have an unacceptably high false positive rate for content on our network and should not be regarded as ...
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What are the differences between the question and answer follow buttons? [duplicate]

I just realized that the original question has a clickable follow button and also if someone answers a question that has a clickable follow button. If I want to follow the original question, I ...
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How could AI be used to augment curation tooling?

I've been doing a lot of things that keep making me think a machine could do it: Fixing typos, editing out noise, flagging obvious non-answers, flagging noisy comments, etc. I'm not of the position ...
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Sustainability of new AI generated content policy

There is a user on Stack Overflow, who posted six answers within 12 (!) minutes: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Those answers are quite clearly AI-generated: common style, extreme speed, extreme variety of ...
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Is there an external space dedicated or strongly related to Stack Exchange Community?

The chat initially referred to as "the third place", Web-based IRC for the Trilogy?, for whatever reason, has been left at the bottom of the feature-request queue. I'm wondering if there is ...
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The new Code of Conduct references are so obsolete they harm the Code of Conduct: is this repairable?

I wonder what the point is of a Code of Conduct that refers to supporting material that's so out of date that the supporting material now violates the Code of Conduct? I certainly support the idea of ...
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What does Prashanth mean by "Community" in his blogposts, and how do the mods influence his perception of it?

A few weeks ago, I posted an answer to New blog post from our CEO Prashanth: Community is the future of AI asking for an interpretation of the CEO's words for the regular users of Meta Stack Exchange. ...
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The new Code of Conduct didn't address significant feedback given. Why ask if you won't incorporate feedback?

Some of the content is unnecessarily verbose. I had pointed some examples out during the review of the draft (both when it was shared with moderators and again in the public review). The "...
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Blog post: CEO Update: Paving the road forward with AI and community at the center

The CEO [of SE] recently posted a blog post titled CEO Update: Paving the road forward with AI and community at the center. Stack Exchange staff haven't posted a request-for-comments on it, so... I ...
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What should I do if a question I'm considering asking would be closed as a duplicate, but I don't understand the duplicate's answer?

To make this clear, I’m asking about a question that I would have that has already been answered but is still difficult to understand or confuses me. I have read this on duplicates, but I’m wondering ...
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When posting announcements either post them as QUESTIONS so that people can actually answer or make the entire thread LOCKED if no input is wanted

Recently Stack Exchange posted a new question about a policy on AI generated content. What is the network policy regarding AI Generated content? The post was made as a fake question, with the actual ...
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Discussion: Network policy regarding AI Generated content

A new Network policy regarding AI Generated content was recently announced by Stack Exchange. As discussion is not currently permitted on such posts, please discuss the policy in the answers here so ...
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