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The following changes are live now: Deleted questions will be visible to their authors, regardless of those authors' reputation. They won't be linked to anywhere† that they're not already linked, but if someone knows where to find their question and it's been deleted, they should always be able to view it. Delete-voting within two days of closing is ...


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A Roomba is a brand of automatic robotic vacuum cleaner for cleaning floors. The first robotic vacuum cleaner was the Electrolux Trilobite in 2001. The iRobot Roomba was released in 2002. Many brands are now available, but it is the Roomba that most people associate with robotic vacuum cleaners (in the same way the brand Hoover became associated with ...


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I think you should tighten the automatic deletion, using all three bullet points you outlined above, and show people their deleted questions (if they have a link). I've long thought that automatic deletion could help immensely with this problem if the time frames were shortened, and keeping the deletions out of the user's profile (until they get to 10K ...


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This's happening probably due to the script conflict - both reversal and roomba scripts run 3:00 AM UTC as it was stated somewhere, but I've seen several times that Community removes a question at 3:01 (despite the site being very low-traffic; on the high traffic sites I think it can take 10+ mins for the script to check all the questions), i.e. sometimes a ...


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I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a "good answer" to a "bad question". If the answer is good and useful it implies that the question is actually a good question too. It might be expressed badly or have suffered from some initial down-votes before it was knocked into shape, but ultimately it must have some use if the answers are good. I think the solution ...


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This is working exactly as intended. This automated check is meant to clean up old closed posts that were effectively abandoned. If the question is worth keeping around, it's worth reopening. I'm not sure why that didn't happen in this case. Judging by the comments, I suspect Double AA was expecting or waiting on some additional community discussion that ...


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Rejected migrations are locked, and the automatic deletion rules exclude locked questions. So rejected migration stubs are never deleted. This is bad because it leaves content around that might be found in searches, but that cannot be curated in any way. The question is there, but there are no answers and there never will be any: this is not useful. ...


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I like this. The grace period allows people to turn a question around while helping to automate the janitorial process. If the site as a whole (and this applies to the owner as well) doesn't have the time/inclination to try and improve the question (which doesn't have anything good in the way of answers already) to the point where it can attract/be good ...


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The deletion notice on a question now includes the scheduled process which caused the Community user to delete the question: One of: RemoveMigrationStubs RemoveDeadQuestions RemoveAbandonedQuestions RemoveAbandonedClosed You can see what each of these terms means in this answer which outlines the criteria.


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Once you remove the 0 score questions (ones that are going to be deleted anyway within a year) we are left with a measly 2153 questions it's really just a drop in the ocean. I do not support automatically deleting anything that got a bunch of upvotes and views, the list is tiny and the community can easily work through this - I do not want another ...


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If system-assisted early deletion is the tradeoff for removing the early delete votes of 20k users, I can get behind that. I'd probably be most comfortable with the third of your options, although I honestly couldn't find anything as an example worth saving even in your second option's query. I'm a big fan of the change in closed question wording to ...


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Starting this coming weekend, these should be deleted automatically 30 days after being rejected. Note that this logic will only delete a rejected, migrated question if it meets the following criteria: Migrated from another site (and no moderator has cleared the migration history) Not already deleted Closed (but not as a duplicate) Locked


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Yes, it is broken. Not completely broken, but definitely broken. Here's the query that implements those requirements you cite: WHERE PostTypeId = 1 -- Question AND DeletionDate IS NULL -- Not already deleted AND MigrationDate IS NULL -- Not migrated AND ClosedDate < GETUTCDATE() - @deadlineDays -- Closed question - was closed before ...


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It's better to pursue undeletion (with edits). Deletions are designed to be reversible. There's an "undelete" link right there, which implies that it's meant to be used when the problems that led to deletion have been addressed. Sticking to the original question instead of starting a new one also keeps all the history together; I've sometimes seen people ...


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As a mod, more automatic deleting greatly lessens two of my biggest concerns as a mod: Getting rid of crap Having closed, clearly low quality content on the front page is embarrassing. So is having it on the first page of /questions. But when do I manually delete it? A day is too soon. After two days I'm likely to forget. But at the moment, that crap's ...


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The question had two downvotes on it as well, and was deleted when the score was 0. The downvotes were later invalidated due to some voting irregularities, which caused the score to rise back up to 2. I've gone ahead and undeleted it.


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A fix for this is going out today. The weekly job culling questions runs at midnight and the fraud reversal happens at 3AM (both UTC). Now, the weekly job will only consider questions which have a non-deleted down vote more than 2 days old. This will give any fraud reversals a run before the votes are considered.


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Sometimes there are questions which are misguided but answerable. That's putting it nicely. The rules for automatic deletion are extremely conservative. The goals are: Remove distractions for folks active on the site. Questions unlikely to attract constructive answers get in the way of those that might produce useful answers. Some folks like to go back ...


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This is super-complicated. The proper solution here would be to ensure that automatic deletion gives votes time to "age" and be vetted by the fraud scripts before taking action. Update: The Roomba script now only considers downvotes cast more than two days ago when calculating the question's score, for the purposes of calculating if a post meets the ...


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I agree; there's a big difference between +0/-15 and +10/-25 (or +100/-115). Controversial is not the same as uniformly rejected. Sometimes the controversy might not even be about the question itself but rather about other intertwined issues. In a related question Shog declined a request to turn off the Roomba entirely on child metas, arguing that ...


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For those of you, who are also "moderators" of a small community around a less frequently used tag, you may want to check that the generally low view count in that community doesn't lead to the deletion of valid, yet unanswered questions. I've created a data explorer query that allows you to see the unanswered questions for your tag that might be auto-...


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Nope, we can't. We just sometimes say that to mean we will come back and delete it soon. I think the general reason we might tend to do this is that we are sensitive about leaving 'meta' comments around, but there are things where we think it's useful to do so. That particular comment seems to be a perfect example. Saying the comment will be deleted is sort ...


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Updates based on comment Here's the list of questions that meet your criteria. There are 10,654 of them. Many of them have been merged, deleted (due to the existing sweep) or migrated. Even if we remove merged and migrated posts its still 10,072. While this only represents .38% of all questions, this does represent 1,216,070* views of bad pages. Removing ...


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Let me just say that sometimes questions without answers are very useful! Ah I'm not the only one who had this problem!… and we both use ⟨insert crappy software/distribution/hardware/whatever here⟩, so the issue is probably due to this and not to this!


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I've updated the query to check for nulls on the IsAnswered field - this will be deployed in the next build (rev 2014.6.16.1659, meta rev 2014.6.16.2312). The query runs on a daily schedule, so may be a day or two before it kicks off.


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Auto-deleted questions are shown. These are all from the “Recently Deleted” list: We can see posts deleted from spam flags are shown and roomba deleted RemoveAbandonedClosed and RemoveMigrationStubs posts are shown. Posts aren't shown if the user account that owns that post is deleted (so spam posts are only shown until the account is deleted for example). ...


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Monica's advice on fixing the question is solid - anything you can do to correct whatever caused it to not get the necessary attention the first time around is worth doing. In particular, take this opportunity to add what you've learned in the time since you first asked. But then... Just re-ask the question. Sure you can vote to undelete it, or flag it ...


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While we can certainly agree that the rules are quite arbitrary, I don't think that unplugging the roomba is the solution here. Here are some things to think about: Why couldn't the question muster a non-negative score in 30 days? Was it because of poor quality? If so, why wasn't it edited to make it better? Was it because it was off-topic/marginal? If so,...


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In general, votes are yours to do with as you please. The only exception is targeting a specific user with votes. However, I think a good rule of thumb for this is to use your vote for those questions that do not add any value to the site. If a question is closed as too localized, poorly formatted (making it a broken window), and it somehow still has a ...


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