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I'm getting really tired of the "framing garbage" argument that you keep throwing out. I've personally deleted over 38,000 posts on Stack Overflow, so I already know what to do with garbage, thank you very much. The discussion that we're having is about what to do with good content that doesn't fit perfectly within the guidelines of the FAQ, not garbage. ...


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Given the (high) degree to which almost all programming depends upon books (online resources are rarely a complete substitute), what should probably be done is every tag wiki should have a tab (or some other convenient way to access a section) devoted to the book list for that subject. I should probably add, however, that it would probably be perfectly fine/...


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View all question with today's standards. If the question fits as per current standards then leave it open; if it doesn't fit then vote/flag to close it. If we keep the questions which don't fit as per current standards, then people will ask why the questions are still open.


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Deleting useful content is not a good thing, especially when that useful content has thousands of links to it. Dogma is one thing, but overall: Don't break the internet. We ask people to post blurbs from linked answers so that if the link fails we still have the content, yet what you're proposing would make us as bad as those we're trying to overcome. If ...


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These arguments you describe have been made on Meta. Questions have been posted following the general form of: Why was my question (link) deleted? I'm just asking about the coolest hidden features of x, and there are lots of other questions of that form, like (examples). I know they exist because I have personally answered and/or voted to close them. I ...


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I don't think of the "fun" posts as broken windows. I think of them as the equivalent to Il Colosseo. Nobody can deny that this structure is broken down and decrepit. Neither can they deny that it is an important part of history and worth preserving in its current state. This is exactly why the "Historical Significance" lock reason says: This question ...


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That question took two and a half months to delete. It would have taken a lot longer, but a moderator stepped in to finish the job. All that time, it was closed. Five people could have voted to re-open, and those delete votes would have evaporated... A question with tens of thousands of views, hundreds of votes, and five people couldn't be bothered to say, ...


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I would offer a different take on what is typically being described as "broken windows" with respect to the current discussions surrounding closing old questions. The "broken window" metaphor doesn't really apply; these aren't (largely) eyesores, they aren't the sort of things that cause you to think - what a crappy place to hang out, I certainly want to ...


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The big problem with book recommendation posts - and similar questions - is that they tend to devolve into polls: For me, and I think I speak for many others, the only time you really know you’re looking at a poll is when you see those one-line answers. But we can only close questions. Is it always the fault of the questioner that the answers suck? Do ...


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I think everybody's being a little too cocky right now. Personally, I don't let my love and understanding of the system get in the way of my even greater love for great, entertaining content. And "garbage" is going way too far. What use is it to delete some of the gems of Stack Overflow's history? That's exactly what a lot of these posts are—pieces ...


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We have the rules we have in part because a category of inappropriate questions reliably garner tons of votes. And every day, it became ever-more-obsolete subjective crap. The sooner all these broken windows go away, the better.


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the 2 who downvoted, I challenge you to give me a plausible explanation for what has happened, please tell me how this was dealt with fairly. A rookie in stack exchange like me, use other questions as a way of figuring out what an acceptable question is, the least you can do is advocate equality and treat everyone equally. Please answer my question ...


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A couple things. First, I feel your pain. Nobody likes their questions closed. Sorry. Please don't take it personally! Nobody is out to get you -- this is just about what questions fit on StackOverflow, and which don't. Second, "moderators" don't do this; SO is peer-moderated. Ordinary users voted your question as off-topic and closed it. After a question ...


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Stack Overflow's criteria have changed over time, and the other question (now 3 years old!) you point to would now also be considered off-topic. In fact, it has now been closed as non-constructive after your post here drew attention to it.


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Self-serve second rounds, otherwise known as vomiting up your lunch or slight acid reflux, can only be a good thing. It shows us where we've been and how much things will not change or improve despite a community waking up and coming to its senses as it rolls over and smells the funk wafting in their face, ears beholden to the sound of thighs. Do these ...


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Absolutely! If you would flag a 4-second-old post for an issue, there is no reason you shouldn't flag a 4-year-old post. My reasoning is that both are indexed by Google - old posts don't get thrown down a black hole. If there are issues in a post, people will see them - and it reflects badly on the site. Therefore, these issues should be taken care of, ...


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It's more because the other question was just as non-constructive as the one you're suggesting is a duplicate of it. I've closed that question as "Not Constructive" as well. Both questions have conflicting information (some saying yes, some saying no), as well as being lists of things. So to answer your question, the other post shouldn't have been open as ...


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How many questions on meta have asked, "Why can't I ask this question when that question is open"? Above question made me feel that topic of broken windows may be worth tagging: ...I was wondering just how many meta threads there were asking "why can't I ask X when Y exists"... In this question, broken windows problem appear to be ...


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All the questions you link were from 2011 or much earlier. In those days, the site rules weren't that strict as they are now. Those questions are kept, but all future questions should apply to the rules. Old questions without values are possibly deleted. It seems your question got put on hold for the right reasons. And those questions could (and should) be ...


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I think the reason this post has attracted such angry responses—from me and others—is because it seems to suggest that the existence of these old, popular questions is a personal affront to you. That un-deleting these posts constitutes throwing "trash in your face" Instead of seeming so offended by these posts, can you instead point out actual, concrete ...


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Take a look at the "Linked" sidebar on that question. It's linked to on a lot of other questions on Stack Overflow and elsewhere on the Internet. We'd rather leave it there than break all those links. If there was one canonical reference for SQL books on Stack Overflow it would probably get the same treatment. (Don't go create a new one though. It is ...


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Your question post got closed because code reviews aren't on topic for SE (there's CodeReview.SE). It could've also been closed as "Not a real question" because you're quite broad in your question. Your question got downvoted because it doesn't show not much research effort. If you tell us what you've tried response will be generally better. One of SE's top ...


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I guess you didn't read all the way to the bottom of that question... This question has historical significance, but is not a good example of an appropriate question. Read and learn from this post, but please do not use it as evidence that you can ask similar questions. See the FAQ for more info.


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If you find such older questions for tool recommendations which are not closed, just flag/vote to close them. Those questions were asked before our rules for tools recommendations were changed. Probably no one noticed such questions after the rules are changed. That's why such questions are still open. Voting to close now.


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Here's a crazy thought: some people want to preserve the ancient "list of X" and such questions, and others want them deleted because they show up at the top of the "Questions by votes" list. Why not put them at the bottom? This could be done by setting the upvotes to zero (I don't want to hear whining about losing rep), or, better, by setting the upvotes ...


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