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Before "apologizing", you need to come clean: did you lie? (Edit: Post has been deleted. See web archive link here.) Earlier, you (Stack Exchange) wrote: We removed a moderator for repeatedly violating our existing Code of Conduct and being unwilling to accept our CM’s repeated requests to change that behavior. However, Monica disputed that she ...


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I was optimistic when you made this post; this was a much more positive message than the "apology and update" that preceded it. The test of your will to address these problems would have come in the actions that follow and in their timeliness. Acknowledgement of errors is important but incomplete. Unfortunately, the follow-through was severely deficient. ...


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As a user who goes by ‘they’, I appreciate your acknowledgment that despite your intent to make users like me more welcome, your actions backfired: Worse, through our handling of this situation, we made [members of the LGBTQ+ community] a target for harassment as people debated their right to express themselves and be addressed according to how they ...


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tl;dr: I believe CTO Fullerton is mostly candy-wrapping, not back-tracking from, SE Inc.'s problematic conduct. To my fellow Meta.SE users: I am surprised at those of you who view this post as a proper apology and worthy of gratitude. I will try to explain why I believe Mr. Fullerton has apologized for the wrong or the minor things, while in fact doubling-...


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I'm a quiet (now resigned) moderator who just sits in her corner in The Workplace, keeping flag queues under control, trying to maintain a community that I care for. I don't spend time in meta.stackexchange, I just do - or did - what I was elected to do by my community four years ago. I was one of those who resigned in the wake of the terribly handled ...


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This apology seems to be sincere but leaves me with questions. I am not overly cynical and believe people can decide to do better and move on from there. This appears to be doing that. One elephant left in the room: The real concern is dealing with the gravity of statements made to the press against someone working for SE voluntarily. Specifically, as of ...


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Random comments while reading the document: Our mission Our mission is to build an inclusive community where all people feel welcome and can participate, regardless of expertise, identity, or language. Whether you’ve come to ask questions or to generously share what you know, join us in building a learning community that is rooted in kindness, collaboration,...


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Going forward, we will be working with the community to overhaul how we gather input and feedback from our moderators and members of the community to make sure that your voices are heard and involved in the process, not just informed after decisions have been made. Source This came 3 days before the users were "informed after decisions had been made" of ...


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There needs to be a serious discussion regarding a policy for staff which prevents them from publicly discussing/endorsing things that directly oppose how the sites generally work. Case in point, I was astonished that The Register had been given actual details regarding the firing debacle and not a canned response like: We are aware of this issue and we ...


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I'm not seeing a whole lot in here about meeting our primary expectation: show effort. I see lots about being more welcoming and not use subtle put downs and the effect of no effort, but the only nod we have to meeting our quality standards is, "Follow our guidelines". If we're going to be showing this to new users, I think making it understood that we're ...


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I don't see how we even have a "problem" at all. I think that is the fundamental divide that SE does not seem to understand and why their whole "welcoming" move is met by so much resistance and frustration. On one hand, we have the technical sites. Those are there to answer User1248346's programming problem. Background is not required ...


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Monica was a well-known, well-liked, and well-respected moderator across the Stack Exchange. Her moderation status was suddenly stripped away because of an alleged protracted spat about pronouns in a chat room. Perhaps her remarks in that chat room eventually got to the point where there needed to be some kind of intervention and discipline, perhaps not. ...


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It's an "us vs. them" bunker mentality We've seen it developing and festering for at least two years now, and in the last few months it appeared to overboil and lead to some extreme, irreversible escalations. In Jan 2020, respected former Community Manager shog9 posted some tweets that seem to confirm that this mentality has entrenched even further to the ...


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I'm a bit worried about how specific and absolute the following bit is: If someone points out that your behavior is making others uncomfortable, stop doing it. Sometimes, people unconsciously say things that negatively affect others. Even if this wasn’t your intent, apologize and move on. It reads to me like it allows for no exceptions, and might very, ...


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No subtle put-downs or unwelcoming language (emphasis mine). I get that the idea is to broadly categorize "not nice" but it seems to me like this is easily mis-interpreted. Are: Sorry, but this question is too broad. A good Stack Overflow question doesn't encompass an entire program, but a specific programming problem. Questions are expected to be in ...


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This was posted too late in the UTC day for anyone to have the votes this deserves, so here is +100. The platform worked great for programming questions because it cut through the noise and clutter and kept people on subject. Nobody cares if you are a dog on the internet. Nobody even cares what text editor you use.¹ What matters is only what is relevant to ...


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In What does the Code of Conduct say about gender pronouns?, 3. My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect? Our users may hold any beliefs they do - be it about gender or even having strong opinions about religions themselves. But if you go out of ...


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Cultural Background: In the United States there has been a push to use gender-neutral language and gender pronouns when given. Stack Exchange (SE) Background: Moderators and employees have access to the Teachers' Lounge (TL) as a private chat room with the understanding that material discussed within is private and confidential. Network Background: Some ...


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Since all answers to the previous FAQ have been deleted and this concern isn't addressed in the new FAQ I guess I'll ask again: How do you think this is going to work for regular (Stack Overflow) users? Regular users don't read Codes of Conduct, FAQs or other guidelines. We know this because thousands of garbage questions come in every day. And for 99% ...


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Don't worry if others give feedback about your question -- they’re trying to make it helpful to as many people as possible. This needs to be made clearer. It's not a "don't worry", it's a "be receptive" (you've used "be generous" later on). If people are just not worrying about feedback, questions aren't going to be improved. No subtle put-downs or ...


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Thank you.


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This was always the most beautiful part of what we've been trying to build here for the past decade or more. It reminded us to always try for a charitable interpretation and not jump to conclusions. It helped us put things in perspective and talk to people instead of just branding them as evil. Please put it back. This is the single most effective way of ...


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She didn’t do anything to violate the CoC. Given leaked transcripts some have seen and been unable to identify CoC violations, and many mods here from the TL also not being able to identify any clear violations, and no one being able to come up with anything that was not either customary in the TL or "pre-thoughtcrime" concerns of "maybe she won't follow ...


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Seeing a public figure of the company nudge one opinion that people leaving is a positive thing is an indirect way of saying "We don't want people who disagree with our decisions to stay here." The mob mentality of accept-it-or-go in a place where the success of the site relies solely on community feedback is absurd. These changes may help a subset of people ...


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(Disclaimer: I do have an answer on that question, too ... and I am sad to see the 500 upvotes gone. But my issue is a different one.) That is exactly the opposite of what Stack Exchange Inc. should be doing right now. Just the other day, the company said: "yes, we understand we should listen". Now you come in, and delete all that user input on that ...


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No subtle put-downs or unwelcoming language. Regardless of intent, this behavior can have a significant negative impact on others. For example, saying “You could Google this in 5 seconds” is a subtle put-down. This reads like I'm stranded in a scifi dystopia. Now I have a language police. Great. Beloved Citizen of the most free Democratic People's ...


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One of the possible reasons could be that users feel Stack Exchange is not setting the right priorities. For many people (including me), the community not being inclusive (enough) is not something we encounter frequently (or at all). This is especially true for the technology-oriented Stack Exchange sites, which make up the majority of the sites and traffic ...


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From this post you've clearly shown that you still know how to engage with the community so I'm genuinely interested regarding why this sort of statement wasn't drafted originally and you opted to go with the original one which caused further controversy? Did you really think the original one would go down better (sort of testing the waters so to speak to ...


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