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What distinguishes the well-behaved robots that help moderate the sites is that they have some kind of human oversight. And they perform actual moderation actions like flagging. Voting is not moderation alone, it was supposed to be a person judging the quality of a post. It has moderation side-effects, but it's not a pure moderation action. Voting should ...


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It's fine to not actually be a genius. But at the end of the day you're expecting people to spend their time solving your problems and a minimal investment in time on your end is nice. I've also had situations where I was stuck with a problem for an extended of time, googled and found a perfectly clear answer on SE. Someone did the research, and solved my ...


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It is always OK to downvote an answer that is not useful. If you believe an answer to be wrong, which is the worst type of not useful because it is likely to mislead, then just follow the advice on the downvote tooltip. It does not matter whether you have answered the same question.


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I agree, I might have taken more time to search for a duplicate, however, answering it takes about the same time and gives an answer tailored to their problem. Exactly, that's where it goes wrong. When you hover over the downvote button, a tooltip will appear that says: This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful. Their ...


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I am new here, but I’ve noticed that downvoting on this site tends to be quite virulent with respect to off-topic questions or questions which probably are poorly formulated. Off-topic questions are downvoted to a.) decrease their visibility on the front page (-8 is needed for that), and b.) allow regular users to start voting to delete them. (needs a score ...


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First, I feel compelled to note that voting itself isn't necessary. The goal here is to compile answers to questions; that doesn't require voting. Plenty of forums and wikis work just fine without voting... So when we talk about voting, we have to talk about what it enables above and beyond those most basic goals. You've identified some of that: Automated ...


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No. It's a good idea to delete a question or answer as soon as you realize that it has no purpose, will never do you or anyone else a bit of good, and nothing you can realistically imagine doing to it will change that fact. But one downvote? That's nothing. Scratch that; it's better than nothing, it's a challenge - someone's told you you don't got what ...


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Quoting the downvote tooltip: This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful When googling the title of a question or the error message in the question immediately turns up a duplicate, that demonstrates a clear lack of research effort. It is easy to determine this for duplicates and hard to determine this for originals, ...


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The answer is yes. If there's a valid reason to downvote (low quality, wrong information, etc.), then it's completely fine to downvote another answer to a question you answered. You should not downvote just to make your content be seen above theirs, though. That could be considered abuse of the voting system. But if you are downvoting for a good reason, ...


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Well, that more or less reflects the current -217 (+136/-353) score on the Live: Left nav, new theming and responsiveness announcement here. Some people like the changes, while others don't. From Ch-ch-ch-changes: Left nav, responsive design, & themes: Every Q&A site has its own theme. But there is great inequality in the level of theming that we ...


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Many years ago, we simplified the logic for the daily reputation badges. They only consider positive reputation changes. That means the script that awards the badge doesn't even look at downvotes, and in that regard doesn't actually pay attention to how much net reputation you earned at all. It only adds up the total reputation you gained from upvotes, ...


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Why would someone want to answer a question that is old and has an accepted answer without bringing anything new and useful to the table? The only good reason I can think of is that they think they are bringing something new and useful to the table. You might disagree, and they may be wrong in thinking that, but it's the only good reason to post an answer ...


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Can we implement a new process that addresses long posts to insure that the next time I create one its not downvoted? Wouldn't that allow for abuse by users who are not like you? When implemented, users who are only capable of asking not useful, badly researched or unclear questions could overcome the stigma of down-votes by adding 20,000 characters of the ...


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Requesting votes (up or down) on any post is not in the spirit of their purpose. Users should vote based on the content of the post alone. And they should not use a user profile to find posts to vote on. Targeting users is by all means a serious offense and those repeatedly involved with it will face consequences. Votes don't need to be requested. The ...


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In this case, you should flag for moderator attention and ask for your question to be deleted. Users shouldn't be answering questions that are likely to be closed, and it looks like you got caught in an unfortunate trap because someone did. It's likely that the moderator will proceed with the deletion, since the question isn't really suitable for the site ...


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When it comes to notifications, there are basically 2 kinds of users: those who pay attention to notifications and those who just leave them there. The latter will ignore these notifications just as they would any others. So only the former will pay attention to them. And that's the problem. Your feature effectively says that, by downvoting the question, I'...


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There's only one asker of a question and a small number of answerers. Try to think of things from the point of view of the larger number of people who might have the same or a similar problem. Is an answer without explanation useful to them? Are repeated answers useful, we're now expecting people to check those answers to see if there's something about one ...


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If I was an inexperienced asker and if I had my question deleted at small negative score I would think that possibly I just accidentally caught an eye of some overly strict moderator and maybe it makes sense to try my luck and ask again. (no, I wouldn't count close voters in that obscure banner and no, I wouldn't check boring help center. Nor would I trust ...


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So... A post is new, it has one other "zero-rated" answer, post an answer yourself, vote down another answer, you get prime real estate... That smells like a conflict of interest. Well, one of the reasons downvoting an answer costing one reputation is to prevent the Slowest Cheater In The East effect. That is Stack Exchange's remedy against what you're ...


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As the tooltip states, for both answers and questions, downvotes can mean that the post isn't useful. There is nothing about it being correct or being wrong. One thing I'm sure about (I'm speaking about the second Q&A you linked): neither answer nor question were useful to me. But I would also go so far as to say, that it wasn't useful for anybody. It ...


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I will bet you dollars to donuts that this didn't happen. Not that I'm disputing your question was downvoted. That's plain for anyone to see. What neither you nor anyone else can see is why someone downvoted a question, so I'm betting that it wasn't two typos that were the motivation behind the downvotes. The tooltip on the downvote arrow contains an ...


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You've asked three questions on the Theoretical Computer Science site and received replies to your concerns about the downvotes: I'm not downvoting; but I notice that you still ignore my (hopefully good) suggestion of carefully studying/reading Sipser's "Introduction to the Theory of Computation" (and solve its exercises ;-) – Marzio De Biasi 6 hours ago ...


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requiring a comment when casting the first downvote on a post by a new user. This may turn out not too useful: No vote (up- or down-vote) comes without an explanation, as you'll notice when you hover the mouse over the respective buttons. Still requiring such a first comment may have the effect that a down-voter just writes down what that very same tooltip ...


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Downvotes don't let you censor anything. The feedback on what other's think of the usefulness of a post is shown next to it, but answer aren't deleted just for being downvoted, and questions are only ever deleted if they go for some time without ever attracting answers or a positive score. Users are already limited to 40 downvotes per day, with no more ...


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This already exists; when I downvote on a site where I have less than 2000 reputation, I get the following popup: P.S. 1: yes, I've retracted that downvote already. P.S. 2: this is not a 'privilege'; on Ask Different, where I am a ♦ moderator, I still get these popups.


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please forgive, if this isn't what this forum is for. Stack Exchange isn't a forum. It's a collection of Q/A sites, not of discussion topics. essentially correct answer, but is voted down for a very minor thing The answer is essentially 3/4 of a line taken from an answer written 5.5 years prior, with a very minor change and with a broken formatting, and ...


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It's because some duplicates appear to lack any research effort. That's what downvoting is for: content that lacks research effort. Very easy-to-find duplicates tend to get downvoted. However, not all duplicates get downvoted. I have a couple of positively-scored duplicate questions.


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Is there some way for non-moderators to tell who voted on a question or answer, so I can prove that it wasn't me? Is it in the SEDE? No, not even ♦ moderators can see individual votes. The simplest way to prove it (if you insist) is to indicate that you're going to downvote it at a specified moment in the future (and later retract it) – if you would ...


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Instead, let me ask this: has there been any new user in the past 3 years such that any of the first 3 questions got a positive score in the long run? If your answer is "yes", provide a link to the corresponding user profile. According to this SEDE query, seven in the last six months. Of course, SEDE doesn't include information about deleted questions, so ...


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The system making it harder to downvote certain posts because a user with certain reputation wrote them is fundamentally incompatible with one of the core principles of Stack Exchange: Vote for the content, not the user. But even if it would be implemented, people would leave random text as comments, or write something that seems meaningful but ...


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