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Jarrod whipped this up this past week, and the behavior should now be live. Edits will be rolled into the previous revision if the previous revision was created by the same author and none of the following conditions are present: The previous revision was created 5 minutes or more in the past A comment has been added to the post after the previous revision ...


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Admittedly in its original form the answer was not fleshed out enough End of story! In more words: SO mods don't have time to wait around for 5 minutes and see if you turn your comment into an answer. If you want your content to stick around, you need to prioritize its quality over how fast you can post it. I don't think the grace period is intended to ...


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One idea would be to limit the edits in the grace period to small fixes below a certain character count. This would still allow to fix small typos and bad grammar that inevitably creeps into some posts, but would prevent the gaming of the feature you want to get rid of. I'm not convinced yet that the grace period should actually be removed, but if it is I ...


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Reasons for eliminating the five-minute limit Late changes are sometimes needed and not necessarily due to mistakes. For example, links might rot and have to get replaced by new ones. Comments are supposed to claim a few space as possible. Editing an existing comment, rather than posting a new one, accomplishes that. Right now, if I have to make an ...


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The only problem with this is it's unexpected - there's no visible trace on that post to indicate to the user why their grace period didn't apply. Seems like it'd be more sane to drop the grace period on something like a vote, which is publicly visible, and is automatically triggered by a spam/offensive flag anyways. Dropping the grace period on votes also ...


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Your question sounds like the primary use case of this would be to start arguments about who stole content from whom leading to lots of angry comments and downvote wars. It's very common for several people to come up with essentially the same answer at the same time. In popular tags it happens basically every single time an easy/common question is posted. ...


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It didn't. The quality score on that was far, far below the threshold for blocking low-quality answers - as Anna notes, he could have just clicked through the warning anyway, but it doesn't appear that he even saw it... Because the author of that answer didn't post that answer. He posted a different answer. I don't know what it contained, but it did make ...


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Revising this answer in response to a lengthy discussion in comments... This isn't really about detecting carefully-hidden plagiarism. That might happen, but it would require very careful timing and so far it hasn't been observed "in the wild". Note that real-time edit notifications make trying to pull off such a trick even more dangerous, since anyone with ...


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As Al E. correctly mentions, a new feature (implemented in March 2015) creates a new revision rather than rolling it into the previous edit when any one of several specific conditions are met: The previous revision was created 5 minutes or more in the past A comment has been added to the post since the previous revision by anyone other than the ...


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That was me. While browsing the site (i.e. not processing the flag queue as it was one of those rare times where it was empty) for questions to answer, I noticed the question and answers and converted them to comments (note, once I did this, I would not have answered the question, as I had taken moderator action on it). Oded has provided a new answer, so ...


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As far as I can see it, all this would require is an addition in the privileges page of What are comments? Comments are temporary "Post-It" notes left on a question or answer. They can be up-voted (but not down-voted) and flagged, but do not generate reputation. There's no revision history, when they are deleted they're gone for good and they'...


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I actually question the value of the grace period. Once you've hit the answer button, any further edits should be tracked separately from the initial submission. This should eliminate garbage "first post" answers that are edited later on purpose. I only see why someone could consider this problem when others do that, if that someone is mostly concerned with ...


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There are examples of answers given after the bounty had expired but still in the grace period that won the bounty. Manual Example Capturing break/interrupt command Bounty started on Sep 26 '11 at 16:34 Bounty Winning answer Oct 4 '11 at 8:13. Automatic Example How can I make OpenFlow work correctly in iOS 5.0? Bounty Started on Oct 9 '11 at 18:53 ...


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Why can't I undo a downvote upon the user improving based on my suggestion? When you try to undo your vote, the following process checks if you're able to: When did you vote? If it was less than 5 minutes ago, allow. When was the post edited for the last time? If it was after your vote, allow. Deny. Now, if the post gets edited after you voted but ...


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And the end result here is.. Not much... I suspect the really funny thing here would be that people would miss many of the nicknames due to caching, and at worst, someone gets annoyed. It's worth remembering that there are a handful of loopholes, and we live with it. If you're going to spend resources (I donno, a VPS or just a shell) to write a script ...


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Here's the (Stack Overflow) data, starting from July 2010 (shortly after the new bounty system was introduced) until May of this year. It excludes auto-awarded bounties (in other words, only counts bounties that were actually awarded by the user). The month counted is the month in which the bounty was started. Month Number of bounties Average hours ...


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I don't think we need extra functionality for this. If someone is in such haste to just get ANYTHING posted up, no matter the quality, then they risk a downvote. It's unlikely that you will downvote a question like that because of a minor spelling or formatting error. If you feel the need to remove your downvote, edit the question yourself. Personally I ...


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Comments tend to be read and responded to much more quickly than posts. Also, they don't have a public revision history. Combined, this makes the chance that someone will see and respond to a comment while it's being edited much more likely than for questions or answers. The little pencil icon serves to reassure folks who find they've responded to a ...


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I always find it a little discriminatory that people with fully-working limbs, familiar and comfortable in their language, set their input requirements as if everyone else is in the same privileged position. [Edit2: note that this behavior is fine for defaults - just really bad for requirements.] What happened to accessibility being important? For someone ...


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According to the FAQ regarding closed questions, Closed questions can and should be edited to improve them and address the reasons why they were closed in the first place. Once this is done you might need to either flag the question for moderator attention or raise a meta question to bring it to everyone's attention so it can get the necessary views that ...


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You are talking about grace period here - for the first five minutes after posting the user can edit as much as he wants, and there will be no trace to those edits. Only when editing after the grace period has expired will a link appear and edit history be available. (example for 10K+ users on Stack Overflow) So what you're actually suggesting is to cancel ...


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Update: (as suggested by Shadow Wizard) As of April 2014, edits no longer cause a post to become community wiki. If I edit 3 times in the grace period, does that use up three edits towards CW, or just one? No. Simply you can see the question revision. The revisions (edits) you see are actual edits which get counted for Community Wiki. For example: ...


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The system allows votes to be undone within 5 minutes after casting. They can also be undone after an edit to the post. This window is intentionally small to avoid people trying to game the system, but it exists at all because sometimes people make mistakes -- they read an answer, think it's good and upvote it, then read another that disagrees and realize ...


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This is exactly why my typical practice is usually, if I see an answer within the grace period that needs improvement, I comment first, giving the user ample time to improve their post before I down-vote. If they don't improve it, or they argue about it, then I click. I always wait until the grace period is over so that, should they later decide to improve ...


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Once the grace period expires, there is some delay between that event and when the system attempts to automatically award the bounty. Once the system makes that attempt and either decides a user to receive half or just drops the bounty, the bounty notice will be removed from the question and you will be able to vote to close the question again. There's no ...


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This is a change from back in March: Reset question grace period once an answer has been posted Edits will be rolled into the previous revision if the previous revision was created by the same author and none of the following conditions are present: The previous revision was created 5 minutes or more in the past A comment has been added to the ...


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This absolutely happens. I know because I have done it. The process I use is: See a question with an obvious answer. Submit the obvious answer. Notice another answer with a different detail or a better explanation. Edit my answer before the grace period ends. Watch for things to add to my answer until the five minutes are up. It's Stack Overflow's ...


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So several days have passed and I have adjusted my editing routine with the feedback from this post in mind. That is to say, that I won't bother with posts until OP's 5 minute grace-period expires. I dedicated about an hour to this process last night, and here are some findings: 1. The sort of questions that I am interested in editing (potentially good ...


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There are 7,496 answers that were provided to questions that were closed and not re-opened after that. (I didn't fancy writing a query that fiddles with timelines). There are 6,749 unique question that got answers after closing. You notice in the first query a couple of questions (this is the topresult) that got answers waaaay beyond its closeddate. I ...


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The system does not automatically remove the bounty and post notice from a question the moment it expires. Like with many other things on the network, there is a process that runs every so often that will eventually remove it. This is also the process that will inevitably decide if half the bounty should be automatically awarded to an answer on the question ...


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