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In What does the Code of Conduct say about gender pronouns?,
3. My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others ...
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Since all answers to the previous FAQ have been deleted and this concern isn't addressed in the new FAQ I guess I'll ask again:
How do you think this is going to work for regular (Stack Overflow) ...
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From here:
U2. I'm worried that I may get banned. Should I be?
Not if you're acting in good faith. If you go out of your way to talk to, or refer to, people in ways you know they will find ...
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I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?
You can often avoid using
pronouns altogether. It's actually pretty rare to need third-person
...
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4. I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is wrong. Is there really no alternative?
You can often avoid using
pronouns altogether. It's actually pretty rare to need ...
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If an answer is written, and uses a particular pronoun, let's say "he", and a user suggests an edit to this answer to change it to "they", and no other changes are required in the answer (i.e. it's ...
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FAQ contains language likely to offend or alienate people based on religion
The FAQ in its current state contains language likely to offend or alienate people by stating that things ...
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It's long & wordy, but maybe that's necessary. The tone is certainly a huge improvement. I'd like to highlight this part:
Q. I find it really distressing to use pronouns in a way I think is ...
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Am I obligated to find opportunities to use pronouns?
Not at all! If you don’t need to use pronouns to say something, that’s fine. We ask that you use pronouns as you would naturally. If you’d use ...
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I don't like using 'they' for singular and try to recast to avoid it wherever possible. If unavoidable, can we use 'one' instead?
I'm aware the two pronouns are not directly interchangeable & that ...
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In But what about...? The edge cases, emphasis mine:
My religion tells me that people can't change their gender. Aren't you treating me with disrespect in the name of treating others with respect?
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Why is it that the new pronouns FAQ was relatively well received with a positive score, but the post for clarifications about it has a negative score?
Some observations: (I haven't voted on either question):
The Post for clarifications on the updated pronouns FAQ is featured across the network, and What does the Code of Conduct say about pronouns? ...
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I really appreciate the effort. This seems to be going in the right direction — and the process of discussion itself goes in the right direction.
Unfortunately, this FAQ is extremely long — even ...
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Q. Does this mean that I will be in trouble if I ever get someone's pronouns
wrong?
A. No. It's fine not to know what they want. It's fine to make
an honest mistake. But once you know what ...
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But conspicuously avoiding using pronouns for one group of people while using them normally for others is a way of refusing to recognize their identity, and that is discriminatory. Please don’t do ...
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This actually sounds suspiciously like what Monica was asking to be allowed to do. That being said, would Monica have been de-modded under this version of the Code of Conduct? If so, which part of ...
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8. Isn't all this causing lots of inconvenience to everyone for the sake of a minority?
No. One thing is required of you: that when someone states their
pronouns you take notice and respect ...
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The FAQ is punctuated inconsistently.
There are many sentences like
It would be rude to refer to a man as "she" or a woman as "he".
where words that are referenced are quoted.
But then there are ...
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What exactly is the difference between the old and the new FAQ?
Note: This answer is intensely opinion based and highlights what, to me, is the most important difference.
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You can often avoid using pronouns altogether. It's actually pretty rare to need ...
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First, I commend you on the attempt, and for the obvious work that went into this. You've done a good job of making the CoC seem more reasonable, and you better explained the reasoning. It generally ...
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From the answer But what about...? The edge cases, question 1:
Some of our sites may have topics where gender is part of the subject of the site and may be a valid question for ...
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Thank you for adding more clarification to the new FAQ and CoC. I'm posting this with as much good faith and respect as I can muster, and as you read it, please keep an open mind. I do not hate people....
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I typically prefer not to disclose my IRL gender/sex, but, since the post specifically calls for trans and nonbinary persons to chime in: I am a nonbinary-ID'd person taking cross-sex hormones, making ...
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Edit: This has already been answered here
One question that I've seen a fair bit recently is:
If a user gets this wrong, will the company publicly slander them to news organisations?
To me that's ...
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What exactly is the difference between the old and the new FAQ?
The main (very positive) difference is that now it states clearly that putting preferred pronouns in a post is noise and can be removed. In discussion in old FAQ it was stated otherwise.
Explicitly ...
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This is a considerable improvement.
But it still raises a barrier for people who deny that genders beyond the binary ones actually exist.
This is a barrier which won't hinder me since I am ...
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