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Before "apologizing", you need to come clean: did you lie?
(Edit: Post has been deleted. See web archive link here.)
Earlier, you (Stack Exchange) wrote:
We removed a moderator for ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
I know that my answer will overlap others, but enough people are waiting for me to comment on this process with an eye toward my case in particular that I'm going to post anyway.
The new removal ...
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I was optimistic when you made this post; this was a much more positive message than the "apology and update" that preceded it. The test of your will to address these problems would have come in the ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
As a user who goes by ‘they’, I appreciate your acknowledgment that despite your intent to make users like me more welcome, your actions backfired:
Worse, through our handling of this situation, we ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
tl;dr: I believe CTO Fullerton is mostly candy-wrapping, not back-tracking from, SE Inc.'s problematic conduct.
To my fellow Meta.SE users: I am surprised at those of you who view this post as a ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
I'm a quiet (now resigned) moderator who just sits in her corner in The Workplace, keeping flag queues under control, trying to maintain a community that I care for. I don't spend time in meta....
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
The reinstatement process is broken as written.
The process is rigged against the previous moderator (PM).
Community Managers (CMs) can recuse themselves if they feel they can't be impartial.
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Thank you for taking the time to put this process together. I know this was dozens and dozens of hours across 7-10 people, If I understand your internal structure correctly. I wouldn't be surprised ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
This apology seems to be sincere but leaves me with questions. I am not overly cynical and believe people can decide to do better and move on from there. This appears to be doing that.
One elephant ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
The two new processes are palliative at best. I would NEVER want to be a moderator with such procedures in place:
There is no community oversight of any community manager's action, and frankly, I do ...
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Unicorn Meta Zoo #9: How do we handle problem users?
In the context of a code of conduct, you talked about the spirit of the rules versus the actual words, and that it's important to uphold the spirit even if someone is not technically violating the ...
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From this post you've clearly shown that you still know how to engage with the community so I'm genuinely interested regarding why this sort of statement wasn't drafted originally and you opted to go ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
The new process was created in response to the lack of process that led to the firing of Monica. So I think it is fair to ask in what ways the events around Monica's firing violated the tenets of this ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
I was a moderator, who's just resigned due to the erosion of trust I feel has happened as a result of this issue.
But, there are some things to note as it relates to the above apology...
This ...
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Why do you stay?
Mi Yodeya.
I stay for this fantastic community, a community of people who care about each other and help each other while we all, together, build an amazing collection of questions and answers about ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
These processes miss the point.
All of the company's current big issues with the community boil down to one issue: The company lost a lot of goodwill and trust.
Without trust, review processes that ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
While this apology is a good first step, there are still some serious issues that remain unresolved.
Monica Cellio should not have had her moderator status removed without due process. I believe ...
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Monica's situation continues unresolved. Is SE hoping the problem just goes away?
I had been glad to see David Fullerton's post when it first came out. It sounded sincere, and exactly like the kind of thing that we needed. I was hopeful it was a sign of the situation getting under ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes
There is no protection against directed findings
The only people who can take decisions on moderator removal and reinstatement are community managers (CM). All CM are part of the same corporate ...
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Monica's situation continues unresolved. Is SE hoping the problem just goes away?
Ok, here's where we're at:
As noted in David's apology, we created a lot of the problems in play here by not following process. So now we need a process to follow for handling issues involving ...
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This does not address the core issue
This must be called out, again, and again, until an answer is recived.
Monica was suspended without a warning, and accused of violating the CoC. This has been ...
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This is a plot of the total score (upvotes minus downvotes) of this announcement. The difference from the previous day's total score is shown in green (positive, above the y-axis 0) or red (negative, ...
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This is the third time now SE has failed in gathering feedback from the moderators on this topic.
The first time was when you dumped the announcement into the Teachers' Lounge (TL).
The second ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
While the whole thing is a breath of fresh air, I wanted to underscore one of the points
Third, we hurt the moderators and members of our communities. Community moderation is the backbone of Stack ...
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The new moderator agreement is now live for moderators to accept across the network
I do want to bring out something that definitely needs to be brought out. The CM team, especially Catija and JNat, have been working really hard on this new moderator agreement. There were loads and ...
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An apology to our community, and next steps
Whatever that you do with the new CoC, just:
Don't be heavyhanded or take offense from things that most users think are normal behaviour or that could be done out of cluelessness instead of malice.
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