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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

Maybe a harsh critique but I believe a fair and honest one. Your post sounds as though your lawyers drafted this for you. The humanity has been sucked out of it, canned lawyer speak is what remains. ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

I know that my answer will overlap others, but enough people are waiting for me to comment on this process with an eye toward my case in particular that I'm going to post anyway. The new removal ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

I can't comment further for legal reasons.
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Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it!

The bottom line is this. Until SE addresses this post, no amount of process, or changes to how meta works, or new CMs are going to make a whit of difference. This argument hasn't been about the CoC; ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

I find this statement to be a continuation of your (= SE inc's) inappropriate, underhanded, approach to this matter and to relations with the SE community so far. We believe that Ms. Cellio was not ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

We believe she did not understand all of the nuances and full intent and meaning of our Code of Conduct and was confused about what actions it required and forbade. What a patronizing comment; in ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The reinstatement process is broken as written. The process is rigged against the previous moderator (PM). Community Managers (CMs) can recuse themselves if they feel they can't be impartial. ...
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Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it!

I know you won't like this answer, but I'm writing it anyway, because this is what you would get over at the workplace: You need to get a lawyer involved. I'm not saying you need to sue them. I ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

Update (30.10.19) We're officially well over a month into this mess, and extremely little has changed. The CoC received an update that was at least received better than the initial FAQ. They've also ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

You said (my emphasis), In recognition of the mistakes that led us here, we invited Ms. Cellio to apply for possible reinstatement on all six sites following our new reinstatement process. Ms. ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

Thank you for taking the time to put this process together. I know this was dozens and dozens of hours across 7-10 people, If I understand your internal structure correctly. I wouldn't be surprised ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The two new processes are palliative at best. I would NEVER want to be a moderator with such procedures in place: There is no community oversight of any community manager's action, and frankly, I do ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

Stack Overflow and Monica Cellio have come to an agreement. Great! I am happy that you have reached an agreement. I am especially happy that this happened sooner rather than later for Monica's sake. ...
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Feedback post: New moderator reinstatement and appeal process revisions

This process is fundamentally flawed because the moderator removal process is fundamentally flawed. We're trying to use a reinstatement and appeals process to clean up issues of a lack of fundamental ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

I wish I could share some of what's been happening in the moderator chat, but suffice it to say that Stack Exchange has gone beyond the pale in the "1984" abuse of language and thought/speech crime ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

This doesn't fix the serious breach of trust SE committed by their actions for me. The agreement is of course between Monica and SE, and that is entirely her business, but the actions by SE were very ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

Is Stack Exchange Inc still interested in cooperating with the community? What is the vision for this relationship? Obviously, no. Kicking Monica out is the last straw for me. I'm done giving SE any ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

I've actually tried to update this post a few times over the past few weeks. Words have power, and I figured the right ones might make a difference. I'm pretty sure folks have noticed I'm back. There'...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

Is Stack Exchange Inc still interested in cooperating with the community? It seems that they lost any interest long ago. They are following a pattern. 1) October 2018: Twitter Driven Development ...
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Summing up the main issues (The Story So Far)

Cultural Background: In the United States there has been a push to use gender-neutral language and gender pronouns when given. Stack Exchange (SE) Background: Moderators and employees have access to ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

Update - After seeing indications of positive intention and direction, and because I care for the sites I moderate, I returned to moderating in March. Subsequently, when the nominations for Moderator ...
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Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

This is certainly a positive step. But it's not enough. Offering Monica the chance to go through your reinstatement process is an insult. Either you're going to reinstate her to her previous ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

Update 2019-12-03 Since SE insists on ignoring the community, and has refused to retract the harmful statements made to the press or even address our questions about the legality of the licensing ...
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What did Monica do to violate the CoC?

She didn’t do anything to violate the CoC. Given leaked transcripts some have seen and been unable to identify CoC violations, and many mods here from the TL also not being able to identify any clear ...
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Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it!

Sometimes, no matter what the intentions are - sometimes the end results get out of hand. In the past few weeks - I've heard folks talk about how it was good the status quo was challenged and... it ...
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How can we help Monica Cellio?

One way to show tangible, useful support is to contribute money to "defend Monica from defamation by Stack Overflow": https://www.gofundme.com/f/stop-stack-overflow-from-defaming-its-users Monica ...
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Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

The new process was created in response to the lack of process that led to the firing of Monica. So I think it is fair to ask in what ways the events around Monica's firing violated the tenets of this ...
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Firing mods and forced relicensing: is Stack Exchange still interested in cooperating with the community?

tl;dr I am a moderator on Parenting.SE. I am stopping all moderating activity until further notice. From a tiny minnow in a pretty large pond: I spent the better part of a day reading many days worth ...
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