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Before "apologizing", you need to come clean: did you lie? (Edit: Post has been deleted. See web archive link here.) Earlier, you (Stack Exchange) wrote: We removed a moderator for repeatedly violating our existing Code of Conduct and being unwilling to accept our CM’s repeated requests to change that behavior. However, Monica disputed that she ...


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I was optimistic when you made this post; this was a much more positive message than the "apology and update" that preceded it. The test of your will to address these problems would have come in the actions that follow and in their timeliness. Acknowledgement of errors is important but incomplete. Unfortunately, the follow-through was severely deficient. ...


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As a user who goes by ‘they’, I appreciate your acknowledgment that despite your intent to make users like me more welcome, your actions backfired: Worse, through our handling of this situation, we made [members of the LGBTQ+ community] a target for harassment as people debated their right to express themselves and be addressed according to how they ...


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tl;dr: I believe CTO Fullerton is mostly candy-wrapping, not back-tracking from, SE Inc.'s problematic conduct. To my fellow Meta.SE users: I am surprised at those of you who view this post as a proper apology and worthy of gratitude. I will try to explain why I believe Mr. Fullerton has apologized for the wrong or the minor things, while in fact doubling-...


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I'm a quiet (now resigned) moderator who just sits in her corner in The Workplace, keeping flag queues under control, trying to maintain a community that I care for. I don't spend time in meta.stackexchange, I just do - or did - what I was elected to do by my community four years ago. I was one of those who resigned in the wake of the terribly handled ...


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This apology seems to be sincere but leaves me with questions. I am not overly cynical and believe people can decide to do better and move on from there. This appears to be doing that. One elephant left in the room: The real concern is dealing with the gravity of statements made to the press against someone working for SE voluntarily. Specifically, as of ...


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There needs to be a serious discussion regarding a policy for staff which prevents them from publicly discussing/endorsing things that directly oppose how the sites generally work. Case in point, I was astonished that The Register had been given actual details regarding the firing debacle and not a canned response like: We are aware of this issue and we ...


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Cultural Background: In the United States there has been a push to use gender-neutral language and gender pronouns when given. Stack Exchange (SE) Background: Moderators and employees have access to the Teachers' Lounge (TL) as a private chat room with the understanding that material discussed within is private and confidential. Network Background: Some ...


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Thank you.


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Seeing a public figure of the company nudge one opinion that people leaving is a positive thing is an indirect way of saying "We don't want people who disagree with our decisions to stay here." The mob mentality of accept-it-or-go in a place where the success of the site relies solely on community feedback is absurd. These changes may help a subset of people ...


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From this post you've clearly shown that you still know how to engage with the community so I'm genuinely interested regarding why this sort of statement wasn't drafted originally and you opted to go with the original one which caused further controversy? Did you really think the original one would go down better (sort of testing the waters so to speak to ...


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I was a moderator, who's just resigned due to the erosion of trust I feel has happened as a result of this issue. But, there are some things to note as it relates to the above apology... This apology has come not a moment too soon.... for the past days, almost a week, now, moderators from across most sites have collaborated on communicating our concerns to ...


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support Now that this has gone live... Serious question: How do I go back? The new font chosen (Using Firefox in Windows 10) feels substantially harder to read and has some gnarly issues with anti-aliasing, to the point that italic text is nearly painful to read, especially in comments.


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While this apology is a good first step, there are still some serious issues that remain unresolved. Monica Cellio should not have had her moderator status removed without due process. I believe that she should have her moderator status reinstated wherever it was summarily removed, pending action to be initiated by SE by the appropriate channels to have it ...


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Multi-disciplinary designer chiming in here. However, Arial doesn’t ship with Linux distros or Android devices. We’re currently only achieving consistency between macOS, iOS, and Windows, leaving 2 platforms to choose their system font. Why are you not loading the Arial webfont? We’d rather have the consistency be shifted to the device itself—when viewing ...


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This is a plot of the total score (upvotes minus downvotes) of this announcement. The difference from the previous day's total score is shown in green (positive, above the y-axis 0) or red (negative, below the y-axis 0). On the left, we believed your apology. We thought you were sincere and wanted to fix this. On the right we realised you were just saying ...


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Why Segoe UI? Why UI fonts at all? Segoe UI is, as its name implies, a font designed for UI. As other posters have said, it is actually somewhat harder to read. The lines have a lower weight and the x-height is smaller. You need to change the font size or you'll reduce visibility and accessibility. Though, honestly, UI fonts are not designed for reading ...


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They're counting on us having nowhere else to go. I can't tell you how many times in the past couple of months I've heard the "stay and fight" mantra from disgruntled meta users, especially around Monica's situation. From Sara's fake apology (which is the lowest-rated question on meta) to moderator issues (the second-most hated question on meta) to ...


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This is the third time now SE has failed in gathering feedback from the moderators on this topic. The first time was when you dumped the announcement into the Teachers' Lounge (TL). The second time was when you posted the previous non-apology to the TL, ignored all feedback and just posted it on Meta only 6 minutes later. The third time started very ...


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While the whole thing is a breath of fresh air, I wanted to underscore one of the points Third, we hurt the moderators and members of our communities. Community moderation is the backbone of Stack Overflow and Stack Exchange, and our moderators are a vital part of us creating a more welcoming and inclusive place. We need to be working with our moderators ...


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Whatever that you do with the new CoC, just: Don't be heavyhanded or take offense from things that most users think are normal behaviour or that could be done out of cluelessness instead of malice. Making everything peaceful and nice is more important than making a war just to stand an argument, regardless of whether the argument is right or not. Doing it ...


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Yes, Meta is the "toxic" place and it must be eliminated. This seems like divide and conquer strategy. If Meta is removed, no negative feedback (collected through The Loop, or otherwise) will be left in the open. There will be no community left, each and every one of us will stand alone, wondering if we are the only ones opposing some ridiculous idea or ...


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You look to be owning your statements here. You look to be owning what happened here. You look like you wish to improve or make improvements to this somewhat broken system already. This is a positive step in the right direction, so I'll play nice and share about what you're going to expect from me as a power user, and one of the users who has been hurt by ...


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The fact that this was announced on the blog, rather than MSE, speaks for itself as to whether they want to continue with MSE or not.


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Update As of "Update 3" things look about like they used to for me on Linux Mint, thank you for hearing the feedback and making the adjustments. (Took a quick look on Windows. I can't say it looks good to me. Better, but not good.) The process part of the below remains pertinent, but again, thank you for listening. Two issues The change is not ...


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Update 6.11.19: (Related update, 30.10.19) For those of you who either don't pay attention or missed it, someone leaked info about a future change announced on the internal moderator team. It was initially posted here on the network, but currently lives on through the internet archive and Reddit (r/stackoverflow). While I'm not going to link it directly (or ...


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Monica herself has recently put up her own timeline of events as a blog post, which can be found here. In the interest of avoiding issues with dead links and avoiding link-only answers, the full text of the blog post is as follows (now with links included and a number of updates): This is a timeline, to the best of my recollection, of the events that ...


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