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I was a regular of the Teacher's Lounge from a few months after chat started to some time in 2017 when I mostly dropped off chat (not just TL), but still checked the transcript now and then, until the day after Monica was demodded, when I resigned. Overall I would not describe the atmosphere as toxic. Sometimes people have a bad day and say things that they ...


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This is a complicated question. Up until a little while ago, I was an appointed moderator on the network. I... spent a lot of time in the TL; I was among the chattiest users in the room the couple times a CM pulled out stats on it. Most of the time, the TL was just like any other room - it had its "core members" who would often be around and chatting. ...


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A few notes: You're exactly right: it isn't fair to expect hundreds of people from a dizzying variety of backgrounds and cultures, wielding an even larger variety of languages, interests and beliefs, to get along with one another 100% of the time. Chat is notorious for triggering the worst in otherwise reasonable people; real-time conversation can be rough,...


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Where did this conversation take place? On a private SE chat? Yes. Most of it did take place in the Teachers' Lounge, a private chatroom for ♦ moderators across the network. Some of it in (private) emails between moderators and Stack Exchange staff, and some of it in the internal Stack Moderators Teams site only accessible to moderators. Is there a ...


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Do the involved parties agree or object to its disclosure? I have made statements in the TL relating to a number of aspects of the relevant issues and I object to the release of the transcripts. A number of moderators shared deeply personal stories in the TL to help us understand these issues. I have benefited from and appreciate their honesty and will not ...


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It's the same reason that your parents would shoo you out of the house or go to their bedroom when they needed to discuss something of gravitas, or the same reason that one-on-one meetings with your direct supervisor are done behind closed doors. There's no reason to expect that any communications done by moderators should ever be public until it's ready to ...


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The specific discussion itself happened in the private moderator chat room Teacher's Lounge, but there were also emails and/or discussions that only the two directly involved parties have access to. There is also additional context in older chat transcripts and on the private moderator team site. All of the content in TL and in the moderator team carries a ...


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Well, one reason could be that it's hard to moderate a chatroom full of moderators. They can't be kicked or suspended, so if toxicity levels rise, eliminating the problem users isn't an option; it needs to be resolved by talking alone. Sometimes, that's very hard or even close to impossible. In my humble opinion, I think it's not toxic at all – at least ...


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Rather than speak entirely abstractly, I thought it would be good to give examples of things I've done in the Teachers' Lounge which require such a private backchannel: I've pinged a mod on another site to share some (public) information on what I believed was a possible sockpuppet network on their site (and it turned out my guess was correct). Had this ...


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Uhm. Quite honestly? You're never going to see it until you become a mod. Most people spend their entire lives not knowing it exists. Also, If we're going to ever rename it. It should be... The Mod Squad.


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I'm one of the folks who was involved in a good chunk of the conversation in question. I would consider the sharing of transcripts to be a complete an utter betrayal of trust of the moderator community. We often discuss matters of sensitivity - and especially in this context folks may find things they may otherwise choose not to reveal. The whole result of ...


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The Teachers Lounge (“TL”) is first and foremost a place where mods can ask for help doing a task they haven’t been trained for (unless you count the privileges that come with high rep status). There’s also a handful of tools that make mundane tasks easier. Being able to freely ask for advice and guidance is very important to get new mods comfortable in the ...


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It was created more than ten years ago for the following purpose: The "Teacher's Lounge" is a private chatroom where moderators can discuss issues related to moderating. (Of course, like many other chatrooms in the network, sometimes we engage in discussions about other topics like cricket or unicorns.) Other than that, it's just about moderating. I'm ...


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As others have said, the chat moderation tools that can be used in normal chat rooms don't really work in a room full of moderators. If moderators don't discipline themselves to avoid controversial topics, keep their cool, etc., then feelings may get hurt. Most of the time moderators discipline themselves but not always. Additionally, the users in most ...


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I have hardly ever visited the TL, and perhaps I can give my opinion without being guilty of disclosing what's meant to be confidential. I think that any social interaction -- including online -- is potentially enjoyable for emotive reasons. Emotions e.g. "delight" can lead to addiction or addictive behaviour. In that way I'd describe the atmosphere as "...


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We (moderators) are also people. Rules in TL are a little bit different, there people are more expressive. In each community/society would be people, who are offended by that community. Very often peoply call community/group "toxic" just because this group doesn't accept their views. If we are talking about TL, there are some...problems in discussions......


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Go to [place] and do [thing] implies that you'll be doing [thing] in [place] I disagree. The context here is "if in doubt, please do X and Y". That doesn't necessarily mean X and Y are part of the same process; they might be (and indeed are) two different things you should try doing. If, as a moderator, I'm not sure how to handle a flag, my first ports of ...


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The lower box where you see "102 people chatting" is not a link to the Teachers' Lounge per se: it shows recently active private chatrooms on chat.SE. Different mods are going to see different things there. If your own site mod room has been active recently, you'll see that; otherwise, you'll see some selection of private rooms that are visible to mods from ...


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I have no skin in this game and no strong opinion either way, but as the person who invented this name in a distant past, I thought I'd leave my two cents here. For me, my experience with teachers has rarely been one of "having power and showing it". The best teachers I've had, both here in Germany and in my 12th grade exchange year in the U.S., always ...


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I think there could be a simple answer, within the community: the moderators find a set of simple rules for the TL, or any similar "private channel". Then those community moderators that have access to say, the TL, vote distinct "TL moderators". I really wouldn't be looking towards Stack Exchange Inc. here. The moderators have proven that they can ...


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The solution to this problem is simple: stop using the old chatroom. What you see there are two of the most recent active private chatrooms on the chat server of that site (the new Teachers' Lounge is on the Meta chat server). If nobody posts a message, the old room will never appear in that widget anymore.


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This issue has been resolved for me, though I'm not sure exactly how it was resolved. Here's why: I clicked 'request access' I then noticed my'parent site' had changed (not by me) from Stack Overflow to Area 51. I changed it back, and tried accessing the Teacher's lounge again. No dice. I waited a few minutes, did a hard refresh of the page, and then saw ...


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There's usually communications methods, both official and unofficial, in addition to TL - for example there's private chat room for mods, or even chatrooms for similar sites to share their experiences. TL is one of many places where moderators can communicate, and there's certain things that you probably should be talking to site mods, not network mods. ...


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Site's mod room is not mandatory and the TL is supposed to be a common place to discuss things. Indeed if there's a long talk about a site specific thing opening a room sounds a good idea to avoid filling the TL for a 2 or 3 person talk. All in all linking to the TL doesn't really harm and I'm unsure it needs rewording. If it was to be said another way I'm ...


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I would close this request as the room was renamed today to INACTIVE Teachers' Lounge. (I seen Em C's comment too late, but it was renamed again today, so I happened to see the change (2020-05-27)) It's now easy to spot the correct room, no more error possible. nb, I agree I should have filled my bug report as a suggestion for a name change instead.


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