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Mar 9, 2013 at 22:05 history closed Michael Petrotta
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Mar 8, 2013 at 7:00 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky I also accepted Robert's answer because he's the only replier on this thread whose SO rep is greater than his meta.SO rep. And it's very elite, at that.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:53 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Look at my original question. Look at my revised question. They are about the same thing.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:53 history edited Dmitry Minkovsky CC BY-SA 3.0
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Mar 8, 2013 at 6:51 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Oh, and, I accepted Robert's answer because I liked it.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:51 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Topic didn't change. I elaborated my point.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:50 comment added Bart I'm sorry, but why did you just accept an answer. You are free to do so, and by all means accept Robert's answer if that is what you think answered your question. But you completely rewrote it, shifted the apparent focus and then effectively say "I'm done here". Do you want a discussion about the (new) topic, or don't you?
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:50 comment added nneonneo @dimadima: Hey, people in other countries and timezones speak English, too. Maybe even as a first language. So what if some people don't have your perfect English? They are valued members of the site nonetheless.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:46 comment added Michael Petrotta Not really. What do you mean by "perhaps the criteria for suggested edits should not be oriented around grammar and on particular language at all"?
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:46 vote accept Dmitry Minkovsky
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:44 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Maybe my question is clear now?
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:41 history edited Dmitry Minkovsky CC BY-SA 3.0
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Mar 8, 2013 at 6:25 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Absurdly sad that you butchered my question like this. After my edits of Bart's initial edits, it was much improved. Now you've stifled my question, and completely ignored its context and the imperative to respect OP.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:15 comment added Bart @dimadima Then by all means make a separate discussion or even a feature request related to filtering out those users who do not have a decent grasp of the English language. I can't see it go over very well, but if that's what you want to discuss, make it a clear discussion.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:14 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky @AnnaLear. Yeah, I can't say I did an precise study. That is true. But 4/5 of the reviewers were in India. I took some time to read their questions, answers, and skimmed a few of their blogs. Their English was "Indian English".
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:13 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky @Bart. Your question: "And what on earth does that have to do with the evaluation of your suggested edit here?" My answer: "If English is your second language, or even if you're from a different native English-speaking country, your perspectives on "fix grammatical or spelling errors" or "clarify meaning without changing it" or "correct minor mistakes" may either be different or, actually, just plain wrong.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:13 comment added Adam Lear StaffMod Yeah, let's not go into analyzing demographics here. You don't know where the users who reviewed the edit are from, nor does it really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Who rejected the edit is a lot less relevant than why, so let's just focus on the latter.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:11 comment added Bart And what on earth does that have to do with the evaluation of your suggested edit here? Nothing whatsoever. You want us to tell you "good edit" or "bad edit", right? Or do you want us to go into a whole discussion on how people from India shouldn't review? If so, you might want to best address that in a different question. Or more clearly state that that is the issue you really want to discuss. P.s. not my downvote. Don't assume it is.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:11 history rollback Adam LearStaffMod
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Mar 8, 2013 at 6:10 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky Yeah, thanks for the vote down @Bart. But do address my question. Notice the "internationalisation" tag on the question. Stop crying and consider this very real problem.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:08 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky @Bart. That's right. So I just reverted the part of your edit that I think is not substantive to the discussion. But SO is an international non-internationalized community. So, when an edit is supposed to "fix grammatical or spelling errors" or "clarify meaning without changing it" or "correct minor mistakes", it can be frustrating when an ESOL person is judging those parameters
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:06 history edited Dmitry Minkovsky CC BY-SA 3.0
don't tread on me. "clarify meaning without changing it"; "always respect the original author"
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:06 comment added Bart Fact: It doesn't matter one bit. You want to know if your edit should have been accepted or rejected. Or rather, you want confirmation that your edit was indeed a good one. Guess what information we need for that? Your suggested edit. Any assumptions about the reviewers, their nationalities, or how angry and upset you really are is besides the point. And from experience, the more neutral discussion/support requests usually go over better than something which might be misinterpreted.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:03 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky @Bart: Fact: people in non-Commonwealth countries generally don't know English as well as they do in Commonwealth countries.
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:02 comment added Dmitry Minkovsky @Bart, really uncool that you deleted my India references in this question. That's what my question is about, man.
Mar 8, 2013 at 5:52 history edited Bart CC BY-SA 3.0
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Mar 8, 2013 at 5:51 answer added animusonStaffMod timeline score: 12
Mar 8, 2013 at 5:50 answer added user102937 timeline score: 3
Mar 8, 2013 at 5:49 answer added BDM timeline score: 3
Mar 8, 2013 at 5:44 history asked Dmitry Minkovsky CC BY-SA 3.0