Timeline for What counts as "not constructive" on Meta Stack Overflow these days?
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Mar 9, 2013 at 18:27 | vote | accept | Bart | ||
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Mar 8, 2013 at 21:23 | comment | added | Adam Lear StaffMod | @Pekka웃 Russian. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:37 | answer | added | Zelda | timeline score: 6 | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:29 | comment | added | Andrew Barber | @LittleBobbyTables It's especially not constructive because he hasn't updated his profile image to reflect the -51 | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:23 | history | edited | Bart | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 8, 2013 at 20:16 | comment | added | BoltClock's a Unicorn Mod | I thought "not constructive" was basically the new name of "noise or pointless". | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:13 | comment | added | Pekka | @Anna may I ask what you are a native speaker of, if not English? I'm curious. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:10 | comment | added | Bart | @AnnaLear :) Nope, not a native speaker either. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:08 | comment | added | Adam Lear StaffMod | @Bart The irony of that question is that both you (if I'm not mistaken?) and I aren't native speakers, and yet... :) | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:03 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | @Pekka, but can we have that displayed as the reason for closing? It would be awesome, even for meta (although most probably wrong). | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:02 | comment | added | Bart | @Pekka웃 I'm assuming there you mean "is used/abused as"? | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 20:01 | comment | added | Bart | @AnnaLear Yeah, we both have voiced our views on the "suggested edit" question. Though the underlying question "should non-native English speakers review suggested edits regarding language?" is a fair one. My answer (if written) would most likely not be appreciated by the OP, but that's another matter. I do agree though that of my examples that one is perhaps the most borderline due to behaviour. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:59 | comment | added | Pekka | "Not constructive" == "I don't like you or your question, and I want to see it closed." | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:59 | comment | added | Adam Lear StaffMod | @bart I think just the "what do you think of this suggested edit" question comes close to being not constructive, but that really only became apparent once the asker engaged in comments and it didn't look like he was interested in discussing the merits of that specific edit. The first two examples should not be closed, and the outreach question... I think it's intended well, though will probably go over like they always do. The way it's phrased I think is constructive enough. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:59 | comment | added | LittleBobbyTables - Au Revoir | This was not constructive | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:49 | comment | added | Bart | @AdamRackis Though that is so easily dismissed with a constructive answer and one of our lovely Meta specific "I disagree" downvotes. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:47 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | @Anna - or maybe too stupid to be taken seriously? Like the question about opening up SE to women? I'm sure you got a good laugh out of that :) | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:43 | comment | added | Bart | @AnnaLear Do any of the examples fail in that regard? | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:42 | comment | added | Adam Lear StaffMod | Meta is probably the one place where "not constructive" can be taken literally and applied to questions that aren't asked in good faith. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:40 | history | edited | OdedStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 8, 2013 at 19:32 | comment | added | Bart | @FrédéricHamidi Yeah, that partially explains my sense of missing the appropriate close reasons. The absence of NARQ for example is sometimes a frustrating one. Though I can see that easily abused as well on Meta. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:30 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi |
@Bart, maybe changing it would be a step in the right direction then. Right now if I were to blindly follow these rules I would consider What makes these posts "not constructive"? the very definition of not constructive.
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Mar 8, 2013 at 19:30 | comment | added | yannis | I'd vote to close the outreach question, disagree on the others. The outreach question isn't bad, but it blends two (imho) distinct issues in one, and that rarely works. The suggested edit one is borderline, I'm guessing some if not all of the close votes are for its first version. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:29 | comment | added | Bart | @FrédéricHamidi Yep, same thing | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:29 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi |
@Oded, yup, for instance What makes these posts "not constructive"? is actually constructive on meta (since it is meta). However, the close blurb is still the same as on the main site, right? (I can't see for myself since I cannot vote to close here.)
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Mar 8, 2013 at 19:29 | comment | added | Bart | @Oded No worries, I got that. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:28 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @AndrewBarber got it right. T'was a joke (see, no close votes!) - my sense of humor gets in the way again! | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:27 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | It all comes down to the definition of "constructive" on Meta. As it stands, Meta is there to solicit debate or extended discussion. I am leaving off "arguments" as not constructive, though some community polling is still in the Meta remit. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:27 | comment | added | Andrew Barber | @Bart I think that was a joke; even if not, it was funny ;) But no; the one about countries and women. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:26 | comment | added | Bart | @AndrewBarber "what do you think of this suggested edit"? | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:25 | comment | added | Andrew Barber | I have to say that it seems to me there should definitely be a higher bar for 'Not Constructive' here. I disagree with that closing reason for most of the posts you have linked, except one. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:25 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | @Oded, not cheap. Clearly this question will solicit debate, arguments, polling, or extended discussion. Maybe we should be more subtle about these hints on meta. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:23 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | Voting to close as "not constructive". Cheap shot. I know. | |
Mar 8, 2013 at 19:23 | history | asked | Bart | CC BY-SA 3.0 |