Timeline for How can we measure the cost of displaying comments?
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| Dec 13, 2013 at 2:11 | comment | added | Drew | Why don't you make it a user (i.e., reader) preference? Maybe even let users set a comment-hiding threshold (default value). And then give them a button on each page, to hide/show all etc. --- buttons to expand/collapse a list are commonplace. IOW, why do you need to come up with a single best-fit design/solution that you hard-code? Different people browse & read differently. | |
| Dec 8, 2013 at 2:44 | comment | added | Szymon | After reading all those comments, I wanted to move to the next answer straight away to see what it might be. Almost forgot to upvote that one. | |
| Dec 7, 2013 at 17:02 | history | edited | Jon EricsonStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Oops.
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| Dec 7, 2013 at 4:30 | comment | added | D.W. | Also, questions seem like they might be pretty different from answers. Merging them together into a single pool seems like it could lead to misleading conclusions. | |
| Dec 7, 2013 at 4:29 | comment | added | D.W. | "Any algorithm for displaying comments should err on the side of hiding comments." - Wait, no! Sometimes a comment points out a critical flaw in an answer (e.g., it points out that the answer is wrong or bad advice). Erring on the side of hiding comments would be harmful. Giving answers more upvotes is not our only goal. We want to give good answers more upvotes, but give bad answers fewer upvotes. I don't think we can make a blanket statement that hiding comments is always the safe choice; it's not that simple. | |
| Dec 7, 2013 at 1:12 | history | edited | Jon EricsonStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Addressing the comments.
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| Dec 6, 2013 at 3:11 | comment | added | user213963 | I'm not sure that I agree with your analysis of the relationship between comments and votes. A question that needs clarification often gets a comment. All custom close messages are comments. Trying to point out where something is wrong in an answer (often in the critical early visibility) is a comment. All of these are issues that cost votes and comments are the symptoms of the problem (low vote scores are also a symptom), not the causes. | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 19:12 | comment | added | Travis J | In my opinion, more comments indicate less consensus. The lower amount of consensus the less likely to get upvotes. I don't think that comments negatively affect voting by just being there, I think that comments which point out flaws with the post contribute to the way that post is viewed, especially if their claims are either undisputed or undeniably accurate. | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 19:01 | comment | added | Jon Ericson StaffMod | @benisuǝqbackwards: Note that the query is over both questions and answers. | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:52 | comment | added | ben is uǝq backwards | What proof is there that the relationship is not in the other direction? More comments means more people attempting to help the OP because the question isn't comprehensible. Can you split this by reputation at the time of asking? (unless you have a better indicator of question asking ability - in which case that'd be better 'cause this ones not great) | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:51 | comment | added | yo' |
Well, some good points here. Maybe we want the ^v buttons to be floating with scrolling, as long as they fit next to the answer. (Hint: No, we do not. However, maybe the fact that once you finish reading a long answer you can't see the upvote button is bad, and should be changed somehow.)
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| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:48 | comment | added | ben is uǝq backwards | Does it matter if comments cost people reputation? I'm not sure I care, though lower reputation users might more. | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:45 | comment | added | Mysticial | Longer posts also trigger the tl;dr. That might be hard to sort from the "I forgot to upvote". | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:40 | comment | added | gnat | sort of test could be like, pick two groups of questions from the history (data dump): one having more comments, another having less, with question score and answers size close enough. Find if there's a correlation with amount of votes | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:38 | comment | added | Geobits | Comment: "This answer is no longer valid due to x...". This would naturally affect vote count, but not simply due to the distance to the vote buttons. | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:35 | comment | added | Monica Cellio | If your theory is correct, then long answers should also cost votes because by the time people get to the end they're far away from the voting buttons. Does the data say anything about that? | |
| Dec 5, 2013 at 18:30 | history | answered | Jon EricsonStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |