Timeline for Can a new programmer with limited technical expertise ask a quality question about fundamentals on SO? [closed]
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| Jan 27, 2014 at 23:30 | answer | added | BartoszKP | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 15, 2014 at 0:20 | comment | added | jball | @JohnDibling just linking to it for others who haven't seen it and are trying to understand the situation and the distinction you are trying to make between demonstrated level of expertise and question quality. | |
| Jan 14, 2014 at 22:18 | comment | added | John Dibling | @jball: Note who posted the first comment in that question. My position hasn't changed. | |
| Jan 14, 2014 at 22:05 | comment | added | jball | Relevant reading on the issue of elementary questions: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/158289/… and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/184961/… | |
| Jan 14, 2014 at 16:08 | history | edited | John Dibling | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 11, 2014 at 23:59 | comment | added | John Dibling | @KenWhite: I'm not suggesting that you do that. Due to the anonymous nature of votes, I'll never know for sure who does. Or, if I'm honest, that anybody does at all. But it seems pretty obvious to me that it happens all the time. Beyond that, voting on meta is exactly the same as on the main site in terms of its effects -- it decreases reputation in the same way, which effects the user's privilege levels. If voting were truly different, then my privileges on meta would be the same as they are on the main site. | |
| Jan 11, 2014 at 23:56 | comment | added | Ken White | @JohnDibling: Sorry, but I don't see it that way. I've voted up or down on feature requests because of the idea proposed, voted up or down questions based on the quality of the question (as would be done at SO). I don't recall ever having voted down a question simply because it was asked here and displeased me. | |
| Jan 11, 2014 at 23:46 | comment | added | John Dibling | @JordanG.: Sorry, but I would have closed your question, too. Two reasons -- you really buried the lead that using py2exe was not viable for you, and two, it was a duplicate question. The linked duplicate's highest-voted answer offers an alternative to py2exe. If that answer is also not acceptable, then your question wasn't clear enough with respect to your requirements, and it should have been closed for that reason as well. (I guess that's three reasons.) | |
| Jan 11, 2014 at 23:40 | comment | added | John Dibling | @KenWhite: I'm aware that, in theory voting is different on meta. However, I'm not taking a stand here. I'm asking for a definitive answer. There is nothing to disagree with as I haven't asserted anything. Beyond that, the reality is that voting on meta isn't all that different from voting on the main site. People vote on meta all the time to indicate their displeasure that the question was asked. | |
| Jan 11, 2014 at 23:29 | comment | added | John Dibling | @Servy: I've done research. I understand why people don't like beginner's questions. Some feel they aren't interesting enough for the answerers. Some feel that answering such questions would not help others, thereby the question is too localized. Others feel somewhat offended, frankly, that they would be bothered by such a trivial question. That's not my question here. My question is, can a trivial question be on-topic? | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:42 | comment | added | Ken White | @JohnDibling: Regarding your "why this was downvoted" (and it wasn't me who did so): Voting is different at Meta. It frequently has nothing to do with question quality; it's often used to signify agreement/disagreement with a point of view or idea, particularly when a question is a feature request. It's not the same as the other SE sites. | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:42 | comment | added | user213963 | @FOTG consider that you did get an answer, and to an extent, you helped the site by making a question that ended up linking to another question. Its not that your question was closed, but rather a pointer to the proper question was made. That said, you might want to look at that other question for reference for the future on how to ask a better question ("Making a python program executable stuck" - the "stuck" doesn't help in the title, the background doesn't help much in the question...). People did a good job at tracking down the duplicate for you and now you know a bit more. | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:41 | answer | added | Rosinante | timeline score: 11 | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:35 | comment | added | Jordan G. | @RobertHarvey I reviewed the question and I did not. I will watch for that in the future and try to make my situation clear. | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:30 | comment | added | gnat | related: Introduce a “general reference” close reason | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:29 | answer | added | user102937 | timeline score: 31 | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:27 | comment | added | user102937 | @FOTG: Did you explain why py2exe wasn't a viable solution for you? | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:26 | comment | added | Jordan G. | Preach. I am personally a beginner and asked a question on making python executable and asked if It could only be done with py2exe or if it was possible without and was flagged as a duplicate question. The question was rather old and was directed towards python 2.6. I read the question prior but I use 2.7. How was I, a beginner programmer, supposed to know the answer to 2.6 would apply to 2.7? | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:17 | comment | added | Servy | There are ton of meta questions along the lines of "why don't people like beginner's questions". You seem to have done insufficient research before asking the question. (I hope you can appreciate the irony here.) | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:15 | comment | added | John Dibling | I'm curious why this was downvoted. There's nothing to disagree with here, as I'm not taking a stand. I'm asking for clarification. If these questions are off-topic and I know where to draw the line, then I'll happily vote to close them, while offering some helpful commentary to the askers. | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:08 | comment | added | Servy | There's a difference between how hard a problem is to solve, and whether or not a solution can be found with a reasonable amount of research effort. The site has an expectation of a reasonable amount of research being done on the part of a question asker before asking a question. Easy/beginner questions have a tendency to be asked frequently (here and elsewhere) and so the answers to those questions tend to be easily discoverable, that said, a "beginner" question that is not easily researched can do well on SO, and a hard question that happens to have easily found solutions can do poorly. | |
| Jan 10, 2014 at 22:02 | history | asked | John Dibling | CC BY-SA 3.0 |