Timeline for A machine can flag spam automatically. Can it do better?
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| Mar 6, 2018 at 7:36 | comment | added | Petter Friberg | @Undo SD could always flag (1 of the flags) and then x site basis you decide if spam flag or other depending on moderator team decision on relative site. I know lot of config :(, but often it's the only way to keep all happy. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:21 | comment | added | John Dvorak | @Undo tweaking this will be fun :P | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:20 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao | @Undo they stick around. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:20 | comment | added | Undo | Might be possible to do a combo approach - 'other' flags on the smallest sites spam-wise, meta posts on the ones large enough to have meaningful data. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:18 | comment | added | Undo | @Shog9 Do 'other' flags stick around after a 6-flag spam nuke? That's a big reason I've opposed it on SO, but if they stick around it might be okay for small sites. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:18 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | There's that. One reason I didn't stand for SR.SE elected mod was... I didn't feel I was handling enough flags, cause I apparently didn't have that many in my timezone. You need mods to handle flags, but as a mod, I gotta have something to do. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:17 | comment | added | doppelgreener | If users could provide freeform text entry alongside any type of flag, Smokey could submit autoflags with a freeform entry of "Smoke Detector autoflag (report link)", and submit non-automated flags made via manual review via "Smoke Detector flag, cast by a human during review (report link)". Not that I want to use this to plug a thing I suggested, but... this seems like an ideal & relevant time to mention that thing. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:15 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | There are some really quiet sites moderation-wise, @John. These flags might be all that keep some mod-teams from going stir crazy. The Diamond Madness, they call it - one day you stumble on a lonely forgotten cabin in the woods, perhaps to take shelter from the driving snow, and upon opening the door you see the desiccated corpse in the blue hat... bony fingers still clutching that last flag. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:13 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | Strictly-speaking, mods already have access to that @John, it's just not a clean or convenient filter. Which leaves us with essentially the same problem described above: nobody knows it exists, those that do don't have access, those that do don't think to look for it, and those that remember don't want to slog through it. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:12 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Its probably skewed by SO ;p. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:11 | comment | added | a spaghetto | @Shog9 The SO mod flag queue is pretty bad already :P | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:11 | comment | added | John Dvorak | "literally nothing else to do" can't possibly happen. Even if mods get really bored, they could review edit suggestions or even answer some questions. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:09 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | My opinion may be a bit skewed by Stack Overflow, @JourneymanGeek, but these seem like flags that'd really pile up fast and end up just getting ignored on sites with literally anything else to do. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:08 | comment | added | Catija | @JourneymanGeek I think that would be something that might be better left up to the mods of the site... I don't know that the CMs will want to wade through the mass of them that get posted here... or that we need to overburden the SO mods with the huge volume they get. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:08 | comment | added | John Dvorak | I wasn't worried about the technical aspect of that, but rather about the peak volume we'd be dealing with. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:07 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | @JohnDvorak metasmoke can alert CHQ when it makes a post; we can watch it for pings. Not out of the question at all. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:07 | comment | added | Catija | Perhaps there'd be a way to set up an annual meta post and each month a new answer is added? Some of the sites I use barely have 12 posts per year... just naturally. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:07 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Yanno? I'd actually be happier with at least one custom flag, especially if its sticky. And it feels like something worth testing | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:07 | comment | added | John Dvorak | @ArtOfCode now, responding to pings will be fun | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:06 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | Automating report meta posts every n months is pretty easy once you get to the technical details of it; totally happy to do that. Probably worth letting sites say they don't want the posts, though. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:06 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | Running as fast as allowed by SE's rate-limiter, it would take less than 5 days to run for all sites, @John. That doesn't seem terribly onerous. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:05 | comment | added | John Dvorak | @Shog9 why not just give mods access to posts recently six-flagged? | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:05 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | An alternate (but to my mind much more obnoxious) route here would be to raise an "other" flag on each autoflagged post with a SD link to the report, @Undo. I hate that idea because it'd be a massive pile of flags requiring no action in the vast, vast majority of cases, but for very quiet sites it might make more sense than a userscript. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:04 | comment | added | Christian Rau | @quartata The problem (to me at least) is less the third party nature and more the fact that I have to go check, rather than just being told. If that being told isn't a genuine SE review queue but whatever private message, e-mail, or just chat bot, that's still better than having me remember checking out the dashboard. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:04 | comment | added | John Dvorak | Monthly report * 173 sites = quite a bit of undertaking, unless those posts are being generated by a bot (through an account that accepts pings, ideally) | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:03 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | I'm not overly concerned about the 3rd-party aspect, @quartata - rather, there's nothing on any Stack Exchange site that would clue you into its existence if you didn't go out of your way to look for it. It's like the 10K tools on SO, except there isn't even a faint grey link in /review - awesome stuff, but nobody knows it exists. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 23:02 | comment | added | a spaghetto | We have the brand new site dashboard on Metasmoke that does exactly this, but some mods are (understandably) wary of relying on a third party tool. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 22:59 | comment | added | Undo | Easy to do a userscript; meta posts could be automated from a template and posted from the bot itself every 3-6 months. I like it, thanks for weighing in. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 22:55 | history | answered | Shog9Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |