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I'd suggestonesuggest one small thing if possible. I know you guys are busy, but having a positive confirmation to the opt out back to the email might help with the "what if someone fakes my email?" crowd. At worst, you could mail back that you totally did not opt out. Considering we have an email on file, and you'd presumably want to send from the same email address it would help.

That's literally the most basic, simple way to confirm that things worked as designed.

Also, I don't want to dismiss anyone's fears but.

I don't think anyone has ever sued SE. Certainly not our core userbase. And trying to work out solutions that work for everyone is hard. Yes, it is a time of much eeek and drama - but I don't think many of the reactions are just about arbitration vs the ability to sue most users wouldn't use.

And if you did opt out, and you went "hey, SO corp, I hate your guts. Lets do that arbitration process you want to do" - If arbitration is the horrible long winded process that folks say it is, they'd go for it. If its the cheaper smarter option, they'd go for it. Opting out does not waive any chances of arbitration does it?

And in my experiences - with simpler, more straightforward cases, arbitration tends to be fast, and somewhat less traumatic. One of my old jobs had one with a client and it was considerably faster, and simpler than the court process. Anecdotal evidence of course, and between a small company and a less small company, rather than megacorps, or even medium sized corps, but in many cases it works well.

Also I'd like to say, threatening to request opt outs for other folks, cause you don't like the current TOS or the simpler opt out method is.. just not classy.

I'd suggestone small thing if possible. I know you guys are busy, but having a positive confirmation to the opt out back to the email might help with the "what if someone fakes my email?" crowd. At worst, you could mail back that you totally did not opt out. Considering we have an email on file, and you'd presumably want to send from the same email address it would help.

That's literally the most basic, simple way to confirm that things worked as designed.

Also, I don't want to dismiss anyone's fears but.

I don't think anyone has ever sued SE. Certainly not our core userbase. And trying to work out solutions that work for everyone is hard. Yes, it is a time of much eeek and drama - but I don't think many of the reactions are just about arbitration vs the ability to sue most users wouldn't use.

And if you did opt out, and you went "hey, SO corp, I hate your guts. Lets do that arbitration process you want to do" - If arbitration is the horrible long winded process that folks say it is, they'd go for it. If its the cheaper smarter option, they'd go for it. Opting out does not waive any chances of arbitration does it?

And in my experiences - with simpler, more straightforward cases, arbitration tends to be fast, and somewhat less traumatic. One of my old jobs had one with a client and it was considerably faster, and simpler than the court process. Anecdotal evidence of course, and between a small company and a less small company, rather than megacorps, or even medium sized corps, but in many cases it works well.

Also I'd like to say, threatening to request opt outs for other folks, cause you don't like the current TOS or the simpler opt out method is.. just not classy.

I'd suggest one small thing if possible. I know you guys are busy, but having a positive confirmation to the opt out back to the email might help with the "what if someone fakes my email?" crowd. At worst, you could mail back that you totally did not opt out. Considering we have an email on file, and you'd presumably want to send from the same email address it would help.

That's literally the most basic, simple way to confirm that things worked as designed.

Also, I don't want to dismiss anyone's fears but.

I don't think anyone has ever sued SE. Certainly not our core userbase. And trying to work out solutions that work for everyone is hard. Yes, it is a time of much eeek and drama - but I don't think many of the reactions are just about arbitration vs the ability to sue most users wouldn't use.

And if you did opt out, and you went "hey, SO corp, I hate your guts. Lets do that arbitration process you want to do" - If arbitration is the horrible long winded process that folks say it is, they'd go for it. If its the cheaper smarter option, they'd go for it. Opting out does not waive any chances of arbitration does it?

And in my experiences - with simpler, more straightforward cases, arbitration tends to be fast, and somewhat less traumatic. One of my old jobs had one with a client and it was considerably faster, and simpler than the court process. Anecdotal evidence of course, and between a small company and a less small company, rather than megacorps, or even medium sized corps, but in many cases it works well.

Also I'd like to say, threatening to request opt outs for other folks, cause you don't like the current TOS or the simpler opt out method is.. just not classy.

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I'd suggestone small thing if possible. I know you guys are busy, but having a positive confirmation to the opt out back to the email might help with the "what if someone fakes my email?" crowd. At worst, you could mail back that you totally did not opt out. Considering we have an email on file, and you'd presumably want to send from the same email address it would help.

That's literally the most basic, simple way to confirm that things worked as designed.

Also, I don't want to dismiss anyone's fears but.

I don't think anyone has ever sued SE. Certainly not our core userbase. And trying to work out solutions that work for everyone is hard. Yes, it is a time of much eeek and drama - but I don't think many of the reactions are just about arbitration vs the ability to sue most users wouldn't use.

And if you did opt out, and you went "hey, SO corp, I hate your guts. Lets do that arbitration process you want to do" - If arbitration is the horrible long winded process that folks say it is, they'd go for it. If its the cheaper smarter option, they'd go for it. Opting out does not waive any chances of arbitration does it?

And in my experiences - with simpler, more straightforward cases, arbitration tends to be fast, and somewhat less traumatic. One of my old jobs had one with a client and it was considerably faster, and simpler than the court process. Anecdotal evidence of course, and between a small company and a less small company, rather than megacorps, or even medium sized corps, but in many cases it works well.

Also I'd like to say, threatening to request opt outs for other folks, cause you don't like the current TOS or the simpler opt out method is.. just not classy.