Timeline for Rollout of new network site themes
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| Aug 23, 2018 at 22:24 | history | edited | Joe FriendStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 31, 2018 at 12:34 | comment | added | studiohack | As another SU mod, I'm not excited about the SU rendering above - as many have stated, it looks like an afterthought. SU is part of the original trilogy of SE sites, and while that may not matter as much, it still handles a lot of traffic and is one of the larger parts of the SE portfolio - thus deserving, from my perspective, a bit of it's own flavor/uniqueness (i.e. more work than slightly mixing up the beta theme with our logo swirled in the header). | |
| Jul 17, 2018 at 22:43 | history | edited | Joe FriendStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 15, 2018 at 9:14 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
If we're adding wiki, might as well make the reference more obvious
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| Jul 15, 2018 at 8:40 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading. [(its = possessive, it's = "it is" or "it has". See for example <http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Its-and-It%27s>)]
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| Jul 13, 2018 at 0:37 | comment | added | Robotnik | @TylerH ^add to the fact that the way the new theming is being built, it's supposed to be easily changable so as to enable rapid deployment of new sites with custom themes. If a community like SU disliked their theme, they could probably ask [feature-request] after [feature-request] to tweak the site theme how they wanted, which is better than the current option of watching design tweaks and bug fixes languish in [status-planned] hell. | |
| Jul 11, 2018 at 15:18 | comment | added | TylerH | @JourneymanGeek Not to mention... the whole point of this question and what it asks for is feedback from you to help inform the design decisions. The mockups in the question are starting points, not "here's what your old site is gonna look like, read 'em and weep fellas". | |
| Jul 11, 2018 at 15:17 | comment | added | TylerH | @JourneymanGeek It's fine if they matter :-) Everyone likes a good looking site that is unique. I'm just saying maybe don't equate a mockup to what sounds like a personal slight against long-time users. I mean, this is someone's job, and you're accusing them of not putting effort into it and making it sound like they aren't doing a good job at all. You don't even know what they were tasked with! Maybe Joe or Jon or Joel or whoever just said "make a basic mockup of this site, don't spend more than a minute or two on each one." | |
| Jul 11, 2018 at 4:11 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | @TylerH while stripped down and very simple, I'd argue that SU has actually had a design. It has been, as how Joe describes it - a bit of a honda, though I guess to us, its a classy '80s lexus or one of those boxy volvos. Someone just swapped it out for a neon green prius. I see a few faces I'm actually unfamiliar with complaining about it with various levels of articulateness. Its the little things, those 5 second changes that actually tie together a site, especially one with a long history (in SE timelines) and a fairly strong sense of community. These things matter to us. | |
| Jul 11, 2018 at 1:03 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Thank you Adam - I do hope this gets fixed | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 21:23 | comment | added | Adam Lear StaffMod | FWIW, I agree. Super User's ending up way too close to both the MSE theme and the stock beta theme. I'm not a designer myself, but I'll ping the one working on these. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 18:58 | comment | added | TylerH | @ChristianRau I understand that, having lived through losing custom skins on a forum where I spent 10 of my most formative years every single day. At any rate, as I said above you can't really call the visual design "well thought out" as distinct from the rest of the network. There is no design on Superuser. This mockup above actually added one and it moved Journeyman to post this answer simply because the person who made the mockup changed a very minor thing in a very minor way, not realizing how emotionally attached it might make some people who'd been regular users for ~10 years. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 16:18 | comment | added | Christian Rau | @TylerH People get passionate when they feel that things which amount to "5 second changes" seem to not have been considered at all or when things as prominent but as easy to adapt as link colour are just overlooked altogether. When you have a design that has been well-thought out and working for years, then you get angry when people do a half-assed 1 hour job on it. The natural removal of some things isn't a problem. The (seemingly) careless way it is done with is. When it seems like SE thinks users won't notice or care and thus doesn't put care into the work, that's what gets people. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:59 | comment | added | Burgi | I prefer "passionate". You should come hang out in Root Access to understand the strength of the community. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:44 | comment | added | TylerH | @Burgi The title's icon going from 2 to 1 colors is a loss & should be fixed, but it is a 5 second change. I have been there before where I've been with a site with thousands of users and had themes that everyone loved and then we moved away and lost the themes, I know that it hurts. However, this is quite the visceral response, IMHO. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:41 | comment | added | TylerH | @Burgi I appreciate that, and I agree it should be iterated and improved. However, you can't really argue there is a unique or memorable design to Superuser right now. Design-wise the only thing it has that is unique right now is "[.} Superuser" as a title at the top. No banner, no background, no unique borders or badge icons, sidebar content, etc. The "phoned-in" style adds more unique identifying elements. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:24 | comment | added | Burgi | @TylerH as a user of Super User it isn't an improvement. It was one of the original trilogy sites, has a larger userbase than Server Fault and yet it feels like the SU design has been done as an afterthought. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:18 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Also, that its easy to fix doesn't make it any better. Worse in fact | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:12 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | All white actually. And well, I feel considering my usual style of complaining about things is understated, my sheer level of indignation... is a little surprising. But its there, and its the site that I've been on the longest. Its been getting angrier with every edit so I probably should shortly wander off and go to bed. | |
| Jul 10, 2018 at 14:04 | comment | added | TylerH | Considering how bland and unthemed Superuser is now, I would think SU users would see it as an improvement... certainly not warranting of this level of indignation. The actual issues I can see here are: 1 the icon field is not well-aligned on the design mockup's banner, 2 the main site icon is now all black instead of one thing being black and one thing being blue, and 3 the mockup's primary color is the exact same value as the default site mockup. Each of these are easy and minor things to adjust. | |
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| Jul 10, 2018 at 5:28 | history | answered | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |