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#We need a clearer path for people to follow post-closure

We need a clearer path for people to follow post-closure

As someone who closes lots of things, I've noticed that very few people ever try to engage after closure. That's a problem, and it clearly plays into resentment of the community itself. Let's pick on the one major reopenable reason on SO, minreprex minimal reproducible example.

Questions is posted, but doesn't have enough data to answer. Maybe you have comments hinting at what's missing, maybe not. What is a new user supposed to do? We're feeding them the list of people who closed the question but... why? As a long time user, I know I can ping dupehammers and maybe close voters, but only if I type their username out fully. And what does editing do? I want my question reopened, not edited! Nothing to them suggests a path forward. What I'd love to see here is

  1. An opt-out notice for close-voters that would let you know a question you helped to close has been edited and/or sent to the reopen queue.
  2. A single, form-driven, notification for close voters (since we don't allow pings to mere close voters), as filled out by the OP. Fill out a form with comments (don't allow a free-form entry into a comment for this) and the system will notify close voters and post it as a comment from the OP. This is a once-per-close thing, so nobody is can get spammed (can only vote to successfully close a question once, unless you're a mod). Lets people know the OP is at least engaged in the reopen process. Many people will not fill this out, sadly.
  3. A link to the reopen page. In fact, the closed questions page only contains a link to that towards the bottom. Maybe we should merge them, so people understand there's a reopen process.

I think we can do better here. Maybe reopening won't solve all the problems, but it might be a step in the right direction

#We need a clearer path for people to follow post-closure

As someone who closes lots of things, I've noticed that very few people ever try to engage after closure. That's a problem, and it clearly plays into resentment of the community itself. Let's pick on the one major reopenable reason on SO, minreprex minimal reproducible example.

Questions is posted, but doesn't have enough data to answer. Maybe you have comments hinting at what's missing, maybe not. What is a new user supposed to do? We're feeding them the list of people who closed the question but... why? As a long time user, I know I can ping dupehammers and maybe close voters, but only if I type their username out fully. And what does editing do? I want my question reopened, not edited! Nothing to them suggests a path forward. What I'd love to see here is

  1. An opt-out notice for close-voters that would let you know a question you helped to close has been edited and/or sent to the reopen queue.
  2. A single, form-driven, notification for close voters (since we don't allow pings to mere close voters), as filled out by the OP. Fill out a form with comments (don't allow a free-form entry into a comment for this) and the system will notify close voters and post it as a comment from the OP. This is a once-per-close thing, so nobody is can get spammed (can only vote to successfully close a question once, unless you're a mod). Lets people know the OP is at least engaged in the reopen process. Many people will not fill this out, sadly.
  3. A link to the reopen page. In fact, the closed questions page only contains a link to that towards the bottom. Maybe we should merge them, so people understand there's a reopen process.

I think we can do better here. Maybe reopening won't solve all the problems, but it might be a step in the right direction

We need a clearer path for people to follow post-closure

As someone who closes lots of things, I've noticed that very few people ever try to engage after closure. That's a problem, and it clearly plays into resentment of the community itself. Let's pick on the one major reopenable reason on SO, minreprex minimal reproducible example.

Questions is posted, but doesn't have enough data to answer. Maybe you have comments hinting at what's missing, maybe not. What is a new user supposed to do? We're feeding them the list of people who closed the question but... why? As a long time user, I know I can ping dupehammers and maybe close voters, but only if I type their username out fully. And what does editing do? I want my question reopened, not edited! Nothing to them suggests a path forward. What I'd love to see here is

  1. An opt-out notice for close-voters that would let you know a question you helped to close has been edited and/or sent to the reopen queue.
  2. A single, form-driven, notification for close voters (since we don't allow pings to mere close voters), as filled out by the OP. Fill out a form with comments (don't allow a free-form entry into a comment for this) and the system will notify close voters and post it as a comment from the OP. This is a once-per-close thing, so nobody is can get spammed (can only vote to successfully close a question once, unless you're a mod). Lets people know the OP is at least engaged in the reopen process. Many people will not fill this out, sadly.
  3. A link to the reopen page. In fact, the closed questions page only contains a link to that towards the bottom. Maybe we should merge them, so people understand there's a reopen process.

I think we can do better here. Maybe reopening won't solve all the problems, but it might be a step in the right direction

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#We need a clearer path for people to follow post-closure

As someone who closes lots of things, I've noticed that very few people ever try to engage after closure. That's a problem, and it clearly plays into resentment of the community itself. Let's pick on the one major reopenable reason on SO, minreprex minimal reproducible example.

Questions is posted, but doesn't have enough data to answer. Maybe you have comments hinting at what's missing, maybe not. What is a new user supposed to do? We're feeding them the list of people who closed the question but... why? As a long time user, I know I can ping dupehammers and maybe close voters, but only if I type their username out fully. And what does editing do? I want my question reopened, not edited! Nothing to them suggests a path forward. What I'd love to see here is

  1. An opt-out notice for close-voters that would let you know a question you helped to close has been edited and/or sent to the reopen queue.
  2. A single, form-driven, notification for close voters (since we don't allow pings to mere close voters), as filled out by the OP. Fill out a form with comments (don't allow a free-form entry into a comment for this) and the system will notify close voters and post it as a comment from the OP. This is a once-per-close thing, so nobody is can get spammed (can only vote to successfully close a question once, unless you're a mod). Lets people know the OP is at least engaged in the reopen process. Many people will not fill this out, sadly.
  3. A link to the reopen page. In fact, the closed questions page only contains a link to that towards the bottom. Maybe we should merge them, so people understand there's a reopen process.

I think we can do better here. Maybe reopening won't solve all the problems, but it might be a step in the right direction