Timeline for Does the community consider the "coerced speech" complaint largely resolved?
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| Oct 26, 2019 at 10:06 | comment | added | ChrisW | And frankly I use a lot of punctuation -- including around the word "nice" there -- it doesn't imply there's no such thing. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 8:24 | comment | added | ChrisW | @onetothrowaway Thanks for asking nicely. But maybe now it's important to emphasise that the word might mean different things to different people, and that using it without remarking on that would be to beg the question -- as I said I wouldn't have decided the case in the same way that SE did, i.e. I'm not sure that moderators necessarily should have been compelled. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 8:15 | comment | added | ChrisW | @Nij So you say you're judging me based on what my punctuation looks like to you -- "a rejection of non-binarism". What if I said, "there's no such thing as binarism" (only fluidity) -- or, "no such thing as gender" -- would "misgendering" then be a possible Thing, in your opinion? It is though, as you say, a "word", which people "just use" and which "exists". Could we end this discussion please? It feels like an accusation, a waste of time, and off-topic. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 8:12 | comment | added | onetothrowaway | I absolutely interpreted the quotes as scare quotes as well. Since you didn't intend to give the impression that you believe misgendering is not a real thing, perhaps you might edit your answer to avoid this miscommunication? | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 7:57 | comment | added | Nij | Well, gender is a real thing, the same way that religion and art and the number 3 are real things. Can you find a molecule of religion? An atom of art? Link to the UV-vis spectra of 3? Using "it's not in my dictionary" seems like a very poor excuse for just using a word, especially when it's contextually clear that the word does exist. Your spell checker would have had a problem with the word sunyata as well; I notice you didn't put quotes around that. I don't try to judge anyone on what they think; I judge everyone on what they do, and you've done what looks like rejection of non-binarism. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 7:43 | comment | added | ChrisW | @Nij Checking my punctuation, you could read it that way, but you don't have to. I read them as a "quote", not a "scare". I added them because "misgender" isn't in my Google Chrome spell checker (the quotes mean "sic"), perhaps it's a neologism, albeit one people hold to. And please kindly don't try to judge me on what I don't think -- IMO whether anything (e.g. "gender") is "a real thing" (see e.g. Śūnyatā) isn't necessarily related to inter-personal attitude (see Brahmavihārās). Be well. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 7:26 | comment | added | curiousdannii | Note that there's no reason for neopronouns to only be limited to third person. Many languages have gendered second person pronouns, so if a non-binary person wanted neopronouns for such a language they would have every right to request both second and third person neopronouns. I don't know if this would affect any of the non-English language sites already on the SE network or not. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 7:09 | comment | added | Nij | Are the scare around the word 'misgender(s|ing)' really necessary? The implication is that you don't think it is a real thing, which is exactly the expression of attitude that the COC update intends to eliminate. | |
| Oct 26, 2019 at 6:51 | history | edited | ChrisW | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 26, 2019 at 6:43 | history | answered | ChrisW | CC BY-SA 4.0 |