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Nov 22, 2019 at 12:48 history edited PM 2Ring CC BY-SA 4.0
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Nov 22, 2019 at 12:43 comment added PM 2Ring @Trilarion FWIW, I like your answer here. IMHO, one of the problems with the current structure is that it seems to encourage a pile-on avalanche effect on questions that propose something unpopular, (especially when posted by staff or CMs) and the constructive criticism can get buried in that avalanche. Actually, I should mention that in my answer...
Nov 22, 2019 at 12:01 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @PM2Ring That may be a topic for a different question but I think the discussion is relatively civilized and that is not really the problem. I'm all for civility, but I'm also all for having clear views and expressing differences. I think that the company owes the users clear explanations, something they aren't giving. That's why I have a different answer to this question here. But who knows, maybe a different structure would also make the participants behaving differently. I wouldn't put my hopes up too much though.
Nov 22, 2019 at 10:19 comment added PM 2Ring @Trilarion There have been a couple of hints from staff & community managers that the powers that be are looking into an alternative to the current Meta SE structure. Maybe that merely means they'll only use the blog to make announcements, but I'm hopeful that they're working on something that will restore proper civilized trustful communication. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I need to believe in some kind of light at the end of the tunnel...
Nov 22, 2019 at 9:07 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @metasnail Somehow the power that be have not come up with an alternative yet and communication has rather broken down. And I don't really see how it could be otherwise. If the company is only happy to react to praise but not to criticism how can you communicate? The lesson seems to be that nobody in the world, not even professionals from a company, can deal with a couple of hundreds or thousands of downvotes professionally. it just seems impossible. Everyone just walks away from such a situation. That is the situation now.
Nov 21, 2019 at 23:43 comment added user215040 "[I]t appears that the Powers That Be no longer consider Meta SE to be an effective (or pleasant) way for the community and the company to communicate." I'd have to agree with that. I used to suggest people ask things here, or direct people to information on this site, like how HNQ works for example, but I can't really see myself doing that anymore.
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:56 comment added PM 2Ring @Trilarion Thanks for doing that query. True, the number of active users does appear to be fairly stagnant. And then there's the huge number of people who use the sites via a search engine & don't bother to register, or who are members but don't bother logging in when doing a search engine lookup. I assume that most of those people are happy to just use the network, and have little desire to become involved in meta issues.
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:37 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution There has been a constant influx as well as a constant outflux. If anything the composition of the community is changing all the time, every day and every minute. I think that the total number of active users is somewhat stagnating though for quite some time. See for example: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1145323/… (for SO)
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:32 comment added PM 2Ring @Trilarion Perhaps, but it has grown in the sense that there is a constant influx of new members. OTOH, a huge number of those people just post a single question, and of those that do stick around, only a very small proportion have a desire to participate in site metas or Meta SE.
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:24 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution The network has grown 4 of the 8 years and kind of stagnated for the remaining time, I think.
Nov 21, 2019 at 19:56 history answered PM 2Ring CC BY-SA 4.0