Timeline for Feedback post: New moderator reinstatement and appeal process revisions
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Jul 7, 2020 at 21:35 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | Rule at my old workplace: if you’re worried about anyone seeing what you are doing, you shouldn’t be doing it. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 17:54 | comment | added | Kevin | @MadScientist: We already know exactly what that would look like. It'd be Monicagate 2.0. I would like to say I believe the company learned its lesson the first time... but I don't think that's actually true. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 13:45 | comment | added | Mad Scientist | @Kevin I'd be more worried about more complex situations where the stuff the moderators might want to say publicly is closely tied to the information they got under the agreement to keep it private. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 13:43 | history | edited | Mad Scientist | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 1, 2020 at 12:19 | comment | added | Yaakov Ellis StaffMod | "I'd be very surprised if the company honestly believed it could keep that a secret" - speaking pragmatically, so would I. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 7:49 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | If the moderator council can't speak publicly (with a single or multiple voices), it would be more like a secret council. I don't like this. It can surely discuss in private, but must have the power to always speak out when it feels necessary. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 3:05 | comment | added | Shog9 | This - public communication - is kinda the elephant in the room. In any process like this, you have to assume that someone will make the details public, particularly if they don't feel like they got a fair shake. Ideally, the mod council is able to play the role of objective 3rd party, keeping everyone else honest... But there is no "keeping everyone silent" option. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 22:51 | comment | added | Kevin | "Are they free to say publicly that SE is overriding their decision for their own nefarious goals, without revealing any details in public?" - I'd be very surprised if the company honestly believed it could keep that a secret. The PM would likely be able to figure it out, especially if a whole bunch of mod council members suddenly resigned right after. At that point, the PM goes public with their side of the story, and it turns into the shitstorm you would expect to see. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 22:13 | comment | added | Mad Scientist | @JourneymanGeek In the end that's the only power the council has. I'd still like to have some more formal powers that would at least make it harder for SE to override the council. For example, the guaranteed ability to post a network-wide featured response to any such override. In the end SE can always override the council no matter what is written now, but there has to be a real cost to doing that, or these checks and balances are entirely futile. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 22:03 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | Presumably we all quit and let the company handle their own problems. Fundamentally that the mod council is advisory rather than regulatory is intentional. We have every desire to keep the company from shooting itself in the foot, but if they insist, there's little we can do. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 21:28 | history | answered | Mad Scientist | CC BY-SA 4.0 |