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Can we stop giving JIT helpthe recommendation to ask a new question when it's closed be removed everywhere? It never works

Since my previous question was closed as a duplicate but the issue wasn't resolved, I'm asking a new one as the close reason recommends me to. It either demonstrates the issue or should stand based solely on the edits to this question.


There is a message that tells users to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • When the system sees that most of the user's questions are closed then, it rate limits the number of questions they are able tocan ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There have been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Let's leverage that!

  • Folks kindakind of get frustrated when they see that the user learnsdoesn't learn the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • AtIn the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous questionquestions, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go-go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, - we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messagesdocumentation, etc.internal or external that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

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screenshot of a notification on a question closed as a duplicate

Can we stop giving JIT help to ask a new question when it's closed? It never works

There is a message that tells users to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • When the system sees that most of the user's questions are closed then it rate limits the number of questions they are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There have been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Let's leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

Can the recommendation to ask a new question when it's closed be removed everywhere? It never works

Since my previous question was closed as a duplicate but the issue wasn't resolved, I'm asking a new one as the close reason recommends me to. It either demonstrates the issue or should stand based solely on the edits to this question.


There is a message that tells users to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • When the system sees that most of the user's questions are closed, it rate limits the number of questions they can ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There have been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Let's leverage that!

  • Folks kind of get frustrated when they see that the user doesn't learn the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • In the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous questions, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get-go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so - we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all documentation, internal or external that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

screenshot of a notification on a question closed as no long reproducible

screenshot of a notification on a question closed as a duplicate

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Left closed in review as "Original close reason(s) were not resolved" by Donald Duck, Ward - Trying Codidact, SpevacusMod

There is a message that tells peopleusers to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • TheWhen the system sees that most of the useruser's questions are closed then it rate limits the number of questions youthey are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There hashave been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. LetsLet's leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

There is a message that tells people to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • The system sees that most of the user questions are closed it rate limits the number of questions you are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There has been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Lets leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

There is a message that tells users to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • When the system sees that most of the user's questions are closed then it rate limits the number of questions they are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There have been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Let's leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

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There is a message that tells people to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • The system sees that most of the user questions are closed it rate limits the number of questions you are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path

    The system sees that most of the user questions are closed it rate limits the number of questions you are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There has been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Lets leverage that!

    There has been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Lets leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues

    Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go

    At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

There is a message that tells people to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • The system sees that most of the user questions are closed it rate limits the number of questions you are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path
  • There has been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Lets leverage that!
  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues
  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

There is a message that tells people to ask a new question when their previous one is closed. This is counter-productive and feeds into a dangerous narrative.

The counter-productive aspect is explained for multiple reasons:

  • The system sees that most of the user questions are closed it rate limits the number of questions you are able to ask, so asking another question that is going to be closed without understanding why it's closed, would only accelerate people towards this path.

  • There has been several observations that editing works at getting your question reopened. Lets leverage that!

  • Folks kinda get frustrated when they see that the user learns the rules on the site and continues asking questions with the same issues.

  • At the end, once you reach the question quality rate limit, the only recommendation we can give is to improve your previous question, when it would have been more efficient to say that from the get go.

The dangerous narrative it feeds is the following: that closing is non-welcoming. Of course it would be considered so, we give the askers conflicting guidance everywhere and make them frustrated. So, please, remove any indication on all help pages, close messages, etc. that the action after getting your question closed is to ask another one.

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