Timeline for Should we switch from marking a question as opinion-based into marking an answer as opinion-based?
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| Feb 14, 2023 at 20:19 | comment | added | drabsv | One of the most sensible suggestions on Meta! I support moderation for both questions and answers, though. Answers marked as "opinion-based" could be transformed into comments by moderators, so their content would not be lost anyway. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 13:36 | comment | added | gss | I think it is very, very hard to say what will be in the future and unfair to judge something based on the prediction. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 13:02 | answer | added | TinkeringbellMod | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:41 | comment | added | VLAZ | I'm saying both of these things. You do not need to wait for answers. If a question has concrete and factual answer which does not need be posted yet, then it's on-topic. You do not need answers present to judge the question. You can judge what answers will be present. "What colour should I choose" is POB because it will not lead to a concrete and factual answer. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:31 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ Actually, no, my opinion is in my question above about this topic, I'm discussing about your opinion. But perhaps I get it now: do you want to say that Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based OR You need to wait zero time [for answers - gss]. It's evident from the question? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:24 | comment | added | VLAZ | No, I do not. You are the one who seems to think that answers should be present in order to close a question as POB. You also seem to think that I'm contradicting myself for saying that no answers are needed to judge a question. Yet, that's not what I've ever said. In the majority of cases, a POB question can be identified without requiring answers. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:20 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ you really don't see contradiction here? a) Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based b) You need to wait zero time [for answers - gss]. It's evident from the question ? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:18 | comment | added | VLAZ | You need to wait zero time. It's evident from the question. Hence why it's not arbitrary as you claim it is. The latest question you dug up is also does not have a fact-based solution. It either asks a) whether companies will act in certain way under certain circumstances. Which is about as vague as you can get in order to ask people to guess the future. And guesses are going to be opinions. or b) asks whether companies should act in certain way inder certain circumstances. Which...asks for opinions . Closure is not based on the answers already there. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:14 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ to be honest, I see much bigger problem with your answer (Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based) - often the question is closing very early, when none answers were provided (politics.stackexchange.com/questions/71252/…) - how long should we wait to check if answers are (will be) based on facts? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:05 | comment | added | VLAZ | "Isn't it an evidence that question have a concrete factual answer?" no, it means at least 21 users clicked the upvote button. Score does not correlate with on-topicness. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 11:03 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ, but let's focus on this: Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based. 21 users found the accepted answer helpful. Isn't it an evidence that question have a concrete factual answer? It has so many upvotes, how so helpful answer can be opinion-based? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 10:56 | comment | added | VLAZ | @gss I don't see how it's not POB. It's asking "is it possible" not as "is it technically possible" but "would it be done". Which cannot be answered objectively - there are great many factors there. Furthermore, it asks "would it support Putin or hurt him?" which is not objectively answerable because again there are great many factors. The question is further too broad. No, I do not think it should be reopened. I think you should realign your expectation of what POB means instead of just trying to claim it's arbitrary. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 10:50 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ OK, so you are saying that we can show at least one rule (as an evidence it is not arbitrary). And you did it - Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based.. I understand this rule. And I understand this it means that this question: politics.stackexchange.com/questions/71153/… shouldn't be marked as opinion-based (see great accepted answer). Am I right? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 10:33 | comment | added | VLAZ | @gss No, you claim that POB closure is completely arbitrary. I say it is not. And the comment you point to also does not say that. Not understanding the closure is not the same as there not being any rhyme or reason and the closure being random. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 10:29 | comment | added | gss | @VLAZ no, you are wrong. Cerbrus showed this clearly (but you can discuss with him if you want): I already answered that in the older question: "The community votes on your question. If the majority of users deem the question to be off-topic, for whatever reason, the question will get closed." (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/416255/…). (he thought about opinion-based, not off-topic). He clearly stated there is no rules, just community opinion. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 7:31 | answer | added | GlorfindelMod | timeline score: 4 | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 7:00 | comment | added | VLAZ | "It is just hard or impossible to predict if question is opinion based." no, it's not. Sure, maybe and in some situations it's harder. But that's a far cry from hard or impossible in the general case. Does the question have a concrete factual answer? Then it's not opinion based. "How to set the colour of some element" does not call for opinions. "What colour should I choose" does. There are some cases where it's harder to predict but it comes from not really knowing enough about what is being asked and research can lead to a better non-opinion based question. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 6:56 | history | edited | 0Valt | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Let's reduce emphasis on users and put it where it belongs - on actions
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| Mar 2, 2022 at 1:48 | comment | added | Ramhound | You also used the word “good” 7 times outside of a quote, hence the reason, questions seeking an opinion make really bad questions for a Q&A website. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 21:43 | history | edited | bobble | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
minor grammar fixes
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| Mar 1, 2022 at 21:11 | comment | added | Kevin B | We don't currently have a mechanism for "marking" answers as anything other than simply deleting them or voting on them. (that's not to say we can't have such a thing, but you're requesting effectively an entirely new system, not a small adjustment to what we have) | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 21:04 | history | asked | gss | CC BY-SA 4.0 |