Timeline for New blog post from our CEO Prashanth: Community is the future of AI
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| Jun 12, 2023 at 21:51 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 2, 2023 at 4:29 | answer | added | bta | timeline score: 3 | |
| May 31, 2023 at 21:41 | answer | added | Starship | timeline score: 3 | |
| May 23, 2023 at 10:43 | comment | added | Rainb | I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords. | |
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| May 18, 2023 at 18:51 | comment | added | starball | @AlexPunnen links yes. answer please no. see also my answer post | |
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| May 18, 2023 at 12:29 | comment | added | Alex Punnen | I like the idea that the AI bot answers or links to similar posts quickly. The community can then upvote or downvote it among other answers. Over time AI will learn and all the hundreds of newbie questions will be linked to similar answers by the AI bot without having to waste human effort. Good idea. Note I am a programmer for 20 years and I don't think ChatGPT or Bard is bull shit, but tools that are not perfect, but improves productivity a lot; So no problem having it here as a bot | |
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| May 17, 2023 at 9:59 | comment | added | henning no longer feeds AI | As new technology empowers us, we push ourselves to new heights and reach for previously unattainable goals. -- More like: As new technology empowers those who own it, they push ourselves to work as much as we can and reach the unattainable goals of the shareholders. | |
| May 17, 2023 at 7:51 | answer | added | Jon Ericson | timeline score: 9 | |
| May 17, 2023 at 7:08 | answer | added | sarlacii | timeline score: 2 | |
| May 13, 2023 at 20:03 | comment | added | starball | *sigh. this is what you get when you paste us something vague like this: a bunch of answers that assume you mean X due to current events, when you really meant W,Y,Z, but nobody would have been able to know that because nobody can read your mind. and these answers keep coming even when the top of this post now links to W and Y. | |
| May 13, 2023 at 18:00 | answer | added | Shadow Wizard | timeline score: 9 | |
| May 13, 2023 at 11:32 | answer | added | Krantz | timeline score: 6 | |
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| S May 12, 2023 at 17:35 | history | notice added | Jawad | Draw attention | |
| May 11, 2023 at 23:51 | answer | added | WhatTheClown | timeline score: 1 | |
| May 11, 2023 at 7:09 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 11, 2023 at 7:00 | comment | added | Amelian | I find this trend of thinking that AI is going to make easier to learn/create new stuff quite funny. Those models were trained on useful information sources (written, moderated and maintained by humans) and now they are being used to pollute those resources with AI generated bullshit. It's a shame. | |
| May 10, 2023 at 9:26 | comment | added | Lundin | This one just hit top 10 least popular discussion posts of all time - quite an achievement to surpass some of the gems on that list. | |
| May 9, 2023 at 17:37 | comment | added | starball | @feetwet I'm assuming that kind of theory is what Criggie's comment above is related to? | |
| May 9, 2023 at 16:19 | comment | added | feetwet | Plot twist: Prashanth's blog post was written by Bing Chat? | |
| May 9, 2023 at 12:34 | answer | added | alexpanter | timeline score: 8 | |
| May 8, 2023 at 13:29 | comment | added | Philippe StaffMod | He does. But I think of it much like the postal mail, for instance - sure, he COULD scribble out the mail himself, and take it to the corner mailbox - or he could delegate that task to someone who can do it more quickly and efficiently, allowing him to utilize his skill set to do things that I can't. (for instance) | |
| May 8, 2023 at 13:16 | comment | added | Criggie | @Philippe does Prashanth not have a SE username of their own to post from? Serious question. | |
| May 8, 2023 at 13:10 | comment | added | Criggie | Text scores 99.98% "real" | |
| May 7, 2023 at 3:58 | comment | added | Benjamin R | @starball That someone like Phillipe has to translate "CEO-talk" not intended for the actual users of this site, into something that is for the users of this site, indicates that this is not someone who should be running SE. | |
| May 5, 2023 at 17:36 | answer | added | Mark Clark | timeline score: 10 | |
| May 5, 2023 at 9:02 | comment | added | starball | @RebeccaJ.Stones I forgot about your answer there. bashing on human answers saying they're often not useful and then saying an AI is sometimes very good is not a very interesting statement to me. I see your point. I defer to my response to my posts here and here. | |
| May 5, 2023 at 8:42 | comment | added | Rebecca J. Stones | (Did you see my answer to that question?) I'm saying Sage (which is not even the cutting-edge now) sometimes writes correct, comprehensive, polite, well-explained, grammatical answers, where all submitted human-written answers are not even in the same ballpark of usefulness. (Not always, just sometimes.) | |
| May 5, 2023 at 5:45 | comment | added | starball | @RebeccaJ.Stones good writing does not equate to correct answer? related: How often does ChatGPT give an incorrect answer to an SE question?. Even if its answer is the "best" at one time, who says it'll be the best in the future? And who's to really say if an answer really is the "best"? note: The ban on SO's rationale is to stop flow rate of unverified crap. Also, this post series here isn't necessarily about answer posts (though many assume it is (incorrectly (can't really blame them))) | |
| May 5, 2023 at 5:30 | comment | added | Rebecca J. Stones | I just want to point out that Sage is amazing at Chinese, and presumably languages in general. The criticisms in the context of Stack Overflow do not necessarily apply at Chinese.SE. It sometimes generates far better answers than humans. So... what do you do when an AI writes the best answer? Throw it out? | |
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| Apr 30, 2023 at 16:25 | comment | added | sfxedit | We are providing free labour in sharing our valuable experience and time with our contributions and moderating duties, and yet, you still want to automate that too to get rid of us? That means this isn't just about money but also about control over what information is created, shared and viewed by the mass. | |
| Apr 25, 2023 at 19:34 | answer | added | Braiam | timeline score: 16 | |
| Apr 24, 2023 at 6:50 | answer | added | Journeyman GeekMod | timeline score: 8 | |
| Apr 24, 2023 at 6:25 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | The blog post as it is, is not very useful. The negative score kind of highlights it. We only needed a summary of it, if at all. And summaries of text (as opposed to answering programming questions) is something AI can already do. If only we hadn't deleted the summary that someone posted but instead displayed prominently. | |
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| Apr 22, 2023 at 20:59 | comment | added | starball | @ouflak I interpreted what Phillipe said as more of (his (Phillipe's) job being) "writing for the MSE audience" (which is why I'm confused that Phillipe didn't write (adapt) the blogpost for the MSE audience, but instead dumped a full quotation) | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 12:24 | comment | added | ouflak | @Philippe, " I'm here to do what I do well, and he's here to do what he does well. His time is better spent on tasks that only he can do." Really. He does know that if his post is relevant, of decent enough quality and salvagable, that there are plenty of volunteers here who would be happy to edit it for clarity and grammar? That's one of the things we do pretty well. If he doesn't know that, perhaps you could mention it to him sometime when you get a chance. We'd genuinely love to see him post more. | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 10:25 | comment | added | avpaderno | I thought that users were already able to quickly ask questions, even before ChatGPT; the issue is that most of those quickly asked questions were closed. Being able to quickly ask questions as as users are able to quickly ask questions implies is not necessarily a good thing. | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 7:47 | comment | added | Craig Hicks | The one piece of actionable information in this CEO's post was "I’ve tasked a dedicated team to work full time on such GenAI applications [and I'll back to you in 3 months]". Everything else was exactly the kind of ineffective mushy regurgitated keywords and calculated copycat know-it-all posing that could be effectively emulated by the current version of ChatGPT. --- Not even considering the question "how do ChatGPT and human "intelligence" differ? Intellectually as dead and un-curious as a doornail. | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 3:17 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | @Philippe You can never win all of meta - but I do think tailoring the messaging to the audience helps. If I may be blunt - Prasanth writes very much like a management/business sort, and its almost a different language, as much as there's quirks to communication here for an 'outsider', or when technical sorts communicate and a non technical sort is trying to keep up. | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 1:49 | comment | added | starball | @Philippe yeah I can see that too, now that several answers have been posted. Perhaps I could have been more clear in my wording: "would appreciate" -> "would have appreciated here, and would appreciate for future scenarios like this" | |
| Apr 22, 2023 at 1:47 | comment | added | Philippe StaffMod | Noted, @starball, though I hesitate and can't help but think that's a no-win scenario. I guarantee that the moment i do, someone is going to gripe. | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 23:18 | comment | added | starball | @Philippe summarizing the blogpost in a way that is tailored for the MSE and wider SE community is something I and seemingly a lot of other people who posted answers here would appreciate seeing in this question post (as opposed to quoting the whole thing). | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 23:08 | comment | added | Philippe StaffMod | I don't think that's a fair statement, @ouflak. The truth of the matter is, that's my job. I'm here to do what I do well, and he's here to do what he does well. His time is better spent on tasks that only he can do. That's why I don't write code, for instance: there are people on staff who are way better at it than I am. Same applies here. | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 16:13 | answer | added | CDR | timeline score: 15 | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 15:28 | comment | added | ouflak | Is anybody else a bit concerned that the CEO himself couldn't be bothered to post this with his own account? I mean I hope this gentelmen actually believe in the core product and understands how it works. | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 15:18 | answer | added | ouflak | timeline score: 14 | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 10:40 | comment | added | bonCodigo | The new blind wave would simply promote "learning from wrong answers" and "giving out more wrong answers", @DavidPostill second you and shudder at the thought of it, all round. The darn wave would also remove/minimize any means and sense of human interaction that tech already lacks. It is great to see how the current community respond with sensibility. | |
| Apr 21, 2023 at 4:15 | answer | added | Michael M. | timeline score: 24 | |
| Apr 20, 2023 at 6:06 | answer | added | dxiv | timeline score: 32 | |
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| Apr 19, 2023 at 7:43 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @AlphaLife "...but it can do those dreadful jobs for us..." That's kind of a simplification. All the details of how exactly AI could help are missing and we are still talking about the future. When we ask how AI helps us today, the answers are much more modest. AI is banned from SE currently and people still ask here lots and lots of questions. That may change, but so far hasn't. AI surely becomes better over time but we don't know how long exactly that will take. | |
| Apr 19, 2023 at 7:40 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @TylerH The problem with SE is that they could build a better search but haven't so far. That's why people use google and are happy with it. And they aren't limited to SE content only. I guess the major problem here is that we don't know what the company really wants to achieve and that judged from past experience, we don't really think they can achieve much. Maybe simply waiting it out and judging afterwards is the best under these circumstances. | |
| Apr 19, 2023 at 5:34 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | Just a quick reminder to folks that we'll be pruning the comments periodically. There are staff replies to answers and if you really wish your point of view to be heard, answers are the right place to do it. | |
| Apr 19, 2023 at 5:20 | answer | added | matt wilkie | timeline score: 7 | |
| Apr 19, 2023 at 4:20 | comment | added | Mentalist | 10 years from now it's going to be really interesting to see how this post and the comments in reaction to it have aged. | |
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| Apr 18, 2023 at 19:46 | comment | added | TylerH | @Braiam Also, no, Google's primary goal has been ads, not search, since the acquisition of DoubleClick in 2007. You can tell that this is true given that search has remained fundamentally unchanged since around that time, except for the fact that ads and promoted content have continued to increase in presence in the Google search space. Google had the best product around that time, as a matter of hard effort, and has been able to keep and expand their domain presence by simply outspending any competition thanks to their ad money. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 19:45 | comment | added | TylerH | @Braiam It should fairly obvious how a company focused on broad internet searching has different concerns than a company focused on searching its own system. If Google wanted to dedicate a team to making a site search for questions on SO, for example, then yes they could probably out-compete even SO's own best concerted effort. But they aren't doing that, because it's not their job or concern, and much of what is useful for searching SO (all the parameters and keywords one can use for searching) are simply not supported in Google search because they only apply to SE sites. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 19:08 | comment | added | Braiam | @TylerH [citation needed] Google primary goal has been searching since '97. 26 years. And yet it's not perfect. Competitors have come and go and yet Google seems to dominate. Some problems just are harder than what it seems. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 18:44 | comment | added | Jon Custer | @TylerH - contributors have the required/desired domain knowledge, the company itself does not. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 18:00 | comment | added | TylerH | @Trilarion It shouldn't be so hard for a company like Stack Overflow to beat Google at making a better in-site search for its own content than what Google can do. SO has access to more data and better domain knowledge of the content, and should have no problem attracting enough talent to develop such a thing, given its overall reputation as a company. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 17:42 | answer | added | kaya3 | timeline score: 120 | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 17:41 | answer | added | lofidevops | timeline score: 14 | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:49 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @zcoop98 For more than a decade people used google to search on SO. If the only goal here is to create a better search (which they didn't manage in the past) then SO will have to beat google. Good luck with that. If the goal is to generate kind of new (remixed) content that is also useful, this won't be that easy. You probably need more than a single team working fulltime on that. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:39 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean, i get that, but that seems a bit too aspirational to me, given what the company has promised and delivered previously. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's more likely we'll just get clippy. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:36 | comment | added | zcoop98 | @TylerH I don't disagree that the craze is reminiscent of crypto (and metaverse around that same time), but I also think there's a much clearer value-add here by comparison, which feels important. Having a mechanism that is able to connect users to Q&A and the information contained in them faster and more accurately than generic search has the potential to be really, really meaningful to SE– I'd argue nigh-undeniably so; since collecting and presenting information to users is Stack Exchange. I'm really hoping for the best on this one; definitely get the community reaction though overall. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:28 | answer | added | JonathanZ | timeline score: 95 | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:27 | comment | added | Kevin B | @BryanKrause Sure, though i'd also assume other content was used as well, rather than just this dated, poorly curated collection we have. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:25 | comment | added | Bryan Krause | @TylerH I would assume that everything on SE has already been used to train existing LLM models. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 16:00 | comment | added | TylerH | This seems very much in the same vein as the cryptocurrency craze of 2020/2021, just with GPT: everyone is doing it, so let's do it too! Stack Exchange does have a massive Q&A count in its 50 million Q&A... the problem is that some 30 million (if not more) are... low quality or duplicates. Stack Exchange content is probably a great corpus of data for training big models, for sure, but I'd caution Prashanth (if he ever visits Q&A and reads comments) to not overestimate the content the company is working with here (lest we end up with yet another gen AI suffering from accuracy problems. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 15:35 | answer | added | user438383 | timeline score: 43 | |
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| Apr 18, 2023 at 3:21 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | @ZoestandswithUkraine it dosen't entirely mean it's the right decision or formal reservations are pointless. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 2:24 | answer | added | Travis J | timeline score: 61 | |
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| Apr 18, 2023 at 0:16 | comment | added | Andreas condemns Israel | @ZoestandswithUkraine "If you have questions, to ensure that they are seen and responded to, please add them as an answer, not just a comment". Just prefix it with "Posted as an answer to ensure SE sees it", or something else. You're free to copy my answer's deleted prefix if you'd be that blunt. Also, you can ask for dinner with Prashanth in your answer. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 0:06 | comment | added | Zoe - Save the data dump | considered, because the decision has already been made. | |
| Apr 18, 2023 at 0:06 | comment | added | Zoe - Save the data dump | @JourneymanGeek Based on the wording, it doesn't really matter where I point it out. If I write an answer, I'm going to have to expand it because answers are more serious than comments. However, this isn't a feedback post. Note how the question explicitly asks for questions that'll be responded to; this isn't a feedback post, it just looks like one. This is an early announcement, and no amount of negative feedback will change anything, because this isn't a feedback post. I'm not going to spend more time on something that will almost guaranteed end up being ignored or at the very least not | |
| Apr 17, 2023 at 23:54 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | @ZoestandswithUkraine As a moderator on an affected site - I think your views are super important, and it would be a shame if it was missed. I'd appreciate it if you'd convert your comment to a post too. | |
| Apr 17, 2023 at 22:16 | answer | added | 0Valt | timeline score: 161 | |
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| Apr 17, 2023 at 17:41 | comment | added | Zoe - Save the data dump | So let me get this straight; we've deleted tens of thousands of CGPT answers just to have another CGPT clone introduced to the site itself? You could at least take us out to dinner before you screw us that hard. CGPT already exists; what's the point in introducing a technology we've so far distanced ourselves from precisely over quality concerns, and when either the same tech or a better tech exists elsewhere on the internet? | |
| Apr 17, 2023 at 17:38 | answer | added | Rubén | timeline score: 178 | |
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| Apr 17, 2023 at 16:40 | comment | added | Andreas condemns Israel | You've probably heard this a lot of times before, but you'll get fewer downvotes than people unhappy with this, due to this site having its own pool of reputation. | |
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| Apr 17, 2023 at 15:44 | comment | added | Philippe StaffMod | If you have questions, to ensure that they are seen and responded to, please add them as an answer, not just a comment. | |
| Apr 17, 2023 at 15:33 | comment | added | DavidPostill | How will the LLM be trained to ignore all of the out of date and plain wrong answers on the SE network? | |
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| Apr 17, 2023 at 15:18 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | Anyhow, my personal feeling is that AI is a huge wave washing the world these days. And it's not a good thing. It's going to cause enormous damage in the long run, not end of the world as some say, but damage that will take lots of years to fix. So while I understand the desire to jump on the worldwide AI wagon, I'm sad SE will also take part in it. :( | |
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