Timeline for Moderation Strike: Stack Overflow, Inc. cannot consistently ignore, mistreat, and malign its volunteers
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| Jun 21, 2023 at 21:20 | comment | added | willeM_ Van Onsem | ChatGPT is definitely a step forward in AI technology, but unfortunately a lot of unskilled people think it has a powerful brain, it does not. Currently it is mainly an artist with words, an electrical parrot so to say. If it gives for example an answer to a question regarding law, it cites non-existing laws, if it is asked to solve programming challenges, it imports non-existing classes. It can copy a bit, just like people sometimes imitates people, with mixed results. Eventually tools improve, but currently the level is insufficient. | |
| Jun 13, 2023 at 17:43 | comment | added | tell | The old technology here is conscious thought by skilled craftsmen. | |
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| Jun 11, 2023 at 9:25 | comment | added | Levente | Since you possibly can't see your vote breakdown, but might be interested in it, I relay that the votes on your post at the time of writing this comment, are: +3/-19. | |
| Jun 11, 2023 at 6:13 | comment | added | Cody Gray | Can you clarify where/what is "old technology" here? | |
| Jun 10, 2023 at 20:45 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 10, 2023 at 20:30 | history | edited | tell | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 9, 2023 at 22:21 | comment | added | Levente | @leanne Until this moment, I was contemplating staying away from SE... from your comment onwards, I am contemplating staying away from the oncoming world. Sounds dramatic but, you know, I am in an invasive and oppressive environment right now where I see how strong appetite people in power have to stunt and throttle the development of others. They try to reduce people into human animals. A world that your insight depicts, combined with my insight here, let me tell you, brings Tesla's quote to mind: "You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension." I am authentically scared. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 22:20 | comment | added | tell | Thanks, @leanne. So Prosus (owned by Naspers ) do know about AI then. Interesting that they own a big chunk of Tencent which owns Wechat. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 22:14 | comment | added | leanne | @Levente: monopolistic and money-hungry! Plus, if international companies are, like US companies, beholden to their shareholders... who cares how it's done, as long as the shareholders are happy | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 22:11 | comment | added | Levente | The majority of education in the hand of one monopolistic provider. What could go wrong? We are so done, so, so, so done. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 22:08 | comment | added | leanne | @Levente and tell: checking out the SO blog entry, Is this the AI renaissance? (Ep. 564): 1) yeah, Prosus has known about AI and its workings for years. They also have their own AI team. They have purchased Udemy, CodeAcademy, and other learning sites. I posit that "the writing's on the wall": Prosus is going to be using these sites' data for its own search/learning system that they can possibly hugely monetize. Soon, no more "volunteers" needed... | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 21:06 | comment | added | tell | Ah, thanks for that info. I thought SO/SE was still privately owned. But still, I think I'm on the right lines and the same applies to the current owners, who AFAICS aren't big AI players. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 21:03 | comment | added | Levente | Why is this happening? | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:59 | comment | added | Levente | So, I seem to have read somewhere that the tendencies of AI potential were not suddenly recognized only in November 2022, when ChatGPT got published. That early insights were available to some circles earlier than that. Tim Urban posted about exponential AI acceleration back in 2015. I wonder, when in summer 2021 Prosus decided to buy SO/SE, had they been entirely clueless about the role AI was going to play? Or did they make their decision in awareness of the potentials in AI development? What was / is Prosus' plan? | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:55 | comment | added | tell | I think you are missing my point. It's unlikely that the company is destroying itself - or to be more exact, destroying the human-intelligence EQ&A service it has built up, largely using volunteer labour - for free. Its owners and senior execs would be stupid if that were the case. Is it likely they're so stupid? | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:53 | comment | added | kaya3 | What is it a means to? It doesn't make the company more attractive to a buyer, even if the buyer does want SE to be destroyed. They won't pay to destroy it if it is already destroying itself for free. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:47 | comment | added | tell | @kaya3 - It makes perfect sense. SE does seem to be running the human side of its world-leading EQ&A operation into the ground. I'm suggesting that that's a means, not an aim in itself. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:44 | comment | added | tell | Moderators are saying they deal with a very large number of what they have concluded to be AI-generated answers. Instruct them not to be so hard on such answers and it's clear what the result will be, and in particular it must surely be clear to senior executives at this company, who one can assume are not stupid. The result will be that AI-generated answers build towards taking over. Who's that profitable for? This website does not exist for community. It exists for profit. | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:42 | comment | added | Levente | Go figure what? | |
| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:40 | comment | added | kaya3 | It's not really clear what you're saying here ─ are you claiming that SE, Inc. has been bought by an AI company who is now intentionally running into the ground? Or that it is pre-emptively running itself into the ground in order to make itself more appealing to be bought by an AI company? This doesn't really make sense, because if SE, Inc. will run itself into the ground then there's no need for an AI company to buy it in order to do that. | |
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| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:39 | comment | added | starball | I don't get what you're trying to say here. Maybe some more clarity is needed. | |
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| Jun 9, 2023 at 20:37 | history | answered | tell | CC BY-SA 4.0 |