I've been, ahem, farming spam/offensive flags due to a bug related to handling spam/offensive flags (which has since been fixed). In doing so, I noticed I haven't received the Marshal badge, despite having:

  • 139 helpful moderator flags
  • 355 helpful spam flags
  • 21 helpful offensive flags
  • 7 helpful comment flags

Which add up to 522. It should qualify, but I still don't have it after a week. For what it's worth, I wasn't a moderator yet when I received the Deputy badge.

Bill the Lizard was a moderator before the Deputy and Marshal badges were introduced. He got Marshal using spam/offensive flags anyway, but the same doesn't appear to be happening for me.

As far as I can tell, spam-flagging posts marks them as handled by the community user, so they should count toward the badges regardless of my mod status. Or did something change as part of the aforementioned fix?

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    As a member of the official Meta Moderator Oversight Team, you realize I must now open up a question about moderators abusing their power to game the flag system and gain badges, right? – Cody Gray Mar 30 '12 at 3:18
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    I can sell you a marshal badge, how bad do you want it? – slugster Mar 30 '12 at 3:24
  • I get the undertone here, but really; why should moderators even have the option to flag posts? It violates trust and (since they have the "hammer" on whether flags should be accepted or not) as such should not be able to unwieldy swing it around. It seems appropriate that you should not have had the honor of "wearing" the badge that I (all too recently) acquired. Shame on you for doing as much work as me. ;) – M.Babcock Mar 30 '12 at 4:12
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    Please forgive the previous comment that was nearly as long as your question as it was not meant to be either spam or offensive. – M.Babcock Mar 30 '12 at 4:13
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    @M.Babcock: What's the big deal about flags? Yes, for a moderator, the flag votes are binding, but that's the same as all of their other votes. Is there really a difference when it comes to the abuse rhetoric (all that hammer swingin') between them choosing to flag or just hitting delete? They have the same effect. – Cody Gray Mar 30 '12 at 4:18
  • @TheEstablishment - Not being a mod on any of the SE sites I can't say for certain, however, based on my understanding doing so taints the record of who signed-off on the flag thus possibly leading to confusion of other moderators who have to answer when the flag is questioned (Less formally... it was my sad attempt at humor). – M.Babcock Mar 30 '12 at 4:24
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    I'll go with the humor thing. – user102937 Mar 30 '12 at 4:25
  • @RobertHarvey - It was a very poor attempt at making a joke of something apparently all too serious. – M.Babcock Mar 30 '12 at 4:26
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    It's not that serious. If it were serious, we'd have fixed it in the system by now. We are, after all, talking about spammers and offensive people. It's not like they don't deserve it. – user102937 Mar 30 '12 at 4:26
  • @RobertHarvey - I agree completely. It must've really been a bad joke then to not be recognized as such (across 2 comments and all). – M.Babcock Mar 30 '12 at 4:29
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    Just for the record, I don't actually see this as abuse or inappropriate. Heck, the moderators should probably earn Deputy and Marshal badges for the flags they process... And like Robert says: they're spammers. So wut. – Cody Gray Mar 30 '12 at 4:36
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    @M.Babcock: I think Jon once said that he's more interested in answering questions than handling flags :) – BoltClock's a Unicorn Mar 30 '12 at 5:43
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    I don't see what the big deal is with moderators raising flags. Internally spam/offensive are votes, and moderator votes are binding. If they just outright delete a spam post, they're effectively rescuing the perpetrator from the penalties (-100 rep, and probably a big factor in the automatic post ban). – a cat Mar 30 '12 at 11:50
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    As a moderator I've flagged a couple times -- once as spam/offensive because I didn't know if the poster would get the penalty if I just deleted (there were other flags already), and once as the easiest way to get another mod to reconsider something he had posted. – Monica Cellio Sep 6 '12 at 20:37
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    Since posting my last comment I've increased my use of flagging as a mod. It was pointed out to me that a flag creates an audit trail, while if I just delete something there's no reason on record. If somebody questions it later, I'll have to try to remember. So I, for example, clean up comment conversations via flags (unless purging all comments). And no badge yet, though I was under the impression I couldn't earn one so that doesn't bother me. – Monica Cellio Jun 2 '13 at 19:59

These flags do count towards the badges when appropriately dismissed as helpful, but moderators aren't eligible to receive either Deputy or Marshal badges according to Geoff Dalgas:

The Deputy and Marshal badges are only granted to registered users - not moderators.

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    What happens when a user is no longer a moderator? – Mr.Wizard Sep 17 '12 at 0:18
  • @Mr.Wizard They will be awarded the badges if they're eligible for them. – Adam Lear Sep 17 '12 at 0:35
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    Moderators meaning 10K users or just diamond users? – fedorqui 'SO stop harming' Jul 8 '13 at 13:55
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    @fedorqui Just diamond moderators. – Adam Lear Jul 8 '13 at 14:45
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    Thanks @AnnaLear, I just updated the Marshall description to reflect that. – fedorqui 'SO stop harming' Jul 8 '13 at 14:51
  • So apparently moderators aren't registered users? That's ironic :-P – ɥʇǝS May 25 '14 at 15:42

The implementation has been changed early this year.

In the old implementation (the visible flag weight era), these flags did count. In the new situation only the helpful flags count.

But if you got the badge during the old implementation, it isn't taken away.

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    I don't think this is relevant - spam/offensive flags can still be dismissed as helpful and a moderator using them marks them helpful pretty much by default. – Adam Lear Mar 31 '12 at 3:43

As far as I know, only your 139 helpful moderator flags count for the badge; that is true for moderators as for the normal users.
That is what happen since January 20, when the flag weight has been replaced with useful flags.

It seems moderators cannot obtain any badge for the number of helpful flags: I have more than 500 helpful flags, but I don't have the Marshal badge. I am referring to the "moderation attention" flags, and to the number shown as, "deemed helpful."

  • This doesn't seem to be the case; if it were so, Bill the Lizard wouldn't have received the badge. See his post that I link to. – BoltClock's a Unicorn Mar 30 '12 at 5:39
  • Did Bill the Lizard get the badge before January 20? – kiamlaluno Mar 30 '12 at 5:53
  • Yes, he did. Maybe the requirements did change since then. – BoltClock's a Unicorn Mar 30 '12 at 6:15
  • Unless that has changed, the number of helpful flags is mod flags + spam votes + offensive votes + comment flags deemed helpful. – a cat Mar 30 '12 at 11:43
  • @lunboks In that case, I would have two badges on Drupal Answers, but I have just one. – kiamlaluno Mar 30 '12 at 11:46

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