Timeline for Community team Q4/2021 Roadmap
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| Sep 23, 2021 at 10:17 | comment | added | Braiam | @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that would ignore that 50% of askers have asked exactly 1 question (sadly, this has survivor-ship bias due most posts being deleted, the number is bigger). Answeres on the other hand on avg post 12 answers. Also, remember that it is answerers, not askers, the ones that support the scope of the site. Without them, there would be no questions to ask. If the answerers are dissatisfied with the kind of questions being asked, they will stop answering altogether. | |
| Sep 23, 2021 at 6:35 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | @Braiam You could also argue that the people who are better at asking questions rather than answering them know the site's scope better due to their experience, but tag badges ignore question scores and only consider answer scores. Closing as duplicates is different, as that's effectively answering the question with a link: if you have a lot of experience answering within the tag, you're also more likely to know which answers elsewhere answer the question. | |
| Sep 22, 2021 at 4:32 | comment | added | Braiam | @Catija no, that's moving in the opposite direction, we need more gatekeeping so misguided (but technically correct according to the rules) actions are less probable. There's an old post by Jon Ericson that basically tells you that. We don't want "drones that know the rules", we want sensible knowledgeable users to review critically the information presented. They can only do that if they understand the topic of the post reviewed. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 19:46 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Braiam "it would exacerbate a perverse incentive of people closing as duplicates rather than other reasons." I don't see how this makes that worse. If anything, I'd think it'd make it less likely, particularly on sites like SO where there's only 3 votes to close. A weighted vote for the correct reason seems more likely than a unilateral vote for the wrong one. But, again... I do not think that gold badges mean that someone understands when to close a question. Any gold badge user could attain this weighted vote by performing well, plus people without gold badges can, too. Less gatekeeping. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 19:42 | comment | added | Braiam | @Catija There's a issue with that that the gold badge solves: it makes certain users essentially site wide moderators. The gold badge is more contained, and I presume that since smaller sites don't seem to have problems (this post argue that is drought of close voters rather than not enough votes) is not like doing this would also help them. Please, don't dismiss using gold badges off hand, since it would exacerbate a perverse incentive of people closing as duplicates rather than other reasons. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 19:18 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Braiam I think of it as two 1. gold badge != knowledge of scope 2. gold badge is not always available on smaller sites. I've been on record in the past disliking static privileges. I don't think having X rep or Y badge necessarily means you know how to use a specific feature correctly. I'd much rather something like this be based on metrics that indicate you know how to use it effectively and in alignment with the community's preferences... and potentially has a way to be lost if they show they're using it in a way the community feels is incorrect. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 17:59 | comment | added | Braiam | @Catija that's one reason, what about the other 3? Needs details, needs focus or opinion based. All of those benefit from knowledgeable users giving accurate feedback. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 17:38 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Braiam No. For a few reasons - I don't generally think that gold badges are necessarily a good indicator of being great at determining whether content fits the site's scope plus, gold badges are nearly unattainable on many sites, so we need a better way to identify when people are good at judging on-topic-ness. :) | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 16:43 | comment | added | Braiam | @Catija is SE evaluating just straight up making the gold badge to apply to any close reason? | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 15:00 | comment | added | Rob | A chart showing the CVers vs. having a silver tag badge or not; that could answer Tim's proposal and assist with this at the same time. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 14:36 | comment | added | bad_coder | @Catija don't be sorry, your presence is more important than data and we gladly wait. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 14:32 | comment | added | Catija Staff | I'm working on the data from the 3-vote-close/reopen tests, too. I have all of the stuff I need but I haven't actually put it into a post yet. I'm very sorry. I was supposed to have it out last week but I didn't get there. Should be this week. | |
| Sep 20, 2021 at 14:31 | history | answered | bad_coder | CC BY-SA 4.0 |