I can't think of a decent reason to allow editing audit messages (like 'n messages moved to room' or topic changes). I have abused it for fun before but it really has no purpose other than joking or obfuscating your actions. For that I think that such messages should be untouchable. Please make them so.
asked Jul 31, 2013 at 16:58
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1I too agree. The lounge has made this a cultural thing, but I too find it's better to prevent is, as a matter of honesty/transparency– seheCommented Aug 2, 2013 at 16:08
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6Yes. I am myself partly responsible for starting that culture, and I realised I really don't like it.– R. Martinho FernandesCommented Aug 2, 2013 at 16:08
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Gallery mode change messages are also editable :(– R. Martinho FernandesCommented Oct 16, 2013 at 13:13
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2Great, another bounty expired :(– R. Martinho FernandesCommented Oct 24, 2013 at 16:28
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4Yes, please. It's become systemic in the Lounge to replace "moved to bin" messages with disparaging comments which, while not entirely surprising, is entirely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. How are newcomers to the chat system supposed to know what just happened to their messages, and how are they supposed to learn from the experience, when it's just suddenly nuked to oblivion and replaced with orphaned hostility?– Lightness Races in OrbitCommented Jan 28, 2014 at 17:58
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In certain cases, this ability would be very useful to hide teams from intruders, by not exposing some secret chat rooms or other repositories. I vote against taking it down.– iBug says Reinstate MonicaCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 13:06
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@ɪʙᴜɢ what do you mean by "hide teams" and "secret chat rooms"?– Jon ClementsCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 13:28
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@ɪʙᴜɢ not quite getting the context... the most common use case for moving messages is to put them into one of the trash cans/rubbish rooms on the site and away from where you are - not to move them into active rooms for people to go try and chat in, right?– Jon ClementsCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 13:33
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@JonClements Sometimes we need to move a few messages to a special trash and we don't want to expose it.– iBug says Reinstate MonicaCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 13:57
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@ɪʙᴜɢ but prohibiting editing audit messages won't stop that... everyone can still see where they went and the system will automatically invite them to the room once you move them anyway... It sounds like you're wanting chat to act completely differently than using a poor workaround...– Jon ClementsCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 13:59
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You can't redact them though... just edit them and that leaves a history anyway... I suppose it probably cuts out the simplest of trolls...– Jon ClementsCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 14:18
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@JonClements ugh, maybe my memory has gone wrong. The actions were moving "secret" messages to a secret room, then delete the audit message directly.– iBug says Reinstate MonicaCommented Jun 11, 2018 at 14:35
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A simple way to fix would be to make these messages work like the ownership change messages. Those are owned by @Feeds, and therefore no one can edit them (mods excluded, of course; s/m/g/).
answered Aug 2, 2013 at 16:14
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