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I can't think of a decent reason to allow editing audit messages (like 'n messages moved to room' or topic changes). I have abused it for fun before but it really has no purpose other than joking or obfuscating your actions. For that I think that such messages should be untouchable. Please make them so.

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    I too agree. The lounge has made this a cultural thing, but I too find it's better to prevent is, as a matter of honesty/transparency – sehe Aug 2 '13 at 16:08
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    Yes. I am myself partly responsible for starting that culture, and I realised I really don't like it. – R. Martinho Fernandes Aug 2 '13 at 16:08
  • Gallery mode change messages are also editable :( – R. Martinho Fernandes Oct 16 '13 at 13:13
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    Great, another bounty expired :( – R. Martinho Fernandes Oct 24 '13 at 16:28
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    Yes, please. It's become systemic in the Lounge to replace "moved to bin" messages with disparaging comments which, while not entirely surprising, is entirely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. How are newcomers to the chat system supposed to know what just happened to their messages, and how are they supposed to learn from the experience, when it's just suddenly nuked to oblivion and replaced with orphaned hostility? – Lightness Races with Monica Jan 28 '14 at 17:58
  • In certain cases, this ability would be very useful to hide teams from intruders, by not exposing some secret chat rooms or other repositories. I vote against taking it down. – iBug says Reinstate Monica Jun 11 '18 at 13:06
  • @ɪʙᴜɢ what do you mean by "hide teams" and "secret chat rooms"? – Jon Clements Jun 11 '18 at 13:28
  • @ɪʙᴜɢ not quite getting the context... the most common use case for moving messages is to put them into one of the trash cans/rubbish rooms on the site and away from where you are - not to move them into active rooms for people to go try and chat in, right? – Jon Clements Jun 11 '18 at 13:33
  • @JonClements Sometimes we need to move a few messages to a special trash and we don't want to expose it. – iBug says Reinstate Monica Jun 11 '18 at 13:57
  • @ɪʙᴜɢ but prohibiting editing audit messages won't stop that... everyone can still see where they went and the system will automatically invite them to the room once you move them anyway... It sounds like you're wanting chat to act completely differently than using a poor workaround... – Jon Clements Jun 11 '18 at 13:59
  • You can't redact them though... just edit them and that leaves a history anyway... I suppose it probably cuts out the simplest of trolls... – Jon Clements Jun 11 '18 at 14:18
  • @JonClements ugh, maybe my memory has gone wrong. The actions were moving "secret" messages to a secret room, then delete the audit message directly. – iBug says Reinstate Monica Jun 11 '18 at 14:35
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A simple way to fix would be to make these messages work like the ownership change messages. Those are owned by @Feeds, and therefore no one can edit them (mods excluded, of course; s/m/g/).

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    oo the subtle subst pun, I wonder if the dogs will hear it – sehe Aug 3 '13 at 21:08

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