Timeline for Summing up the main issues (The Story So Far)
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Jan 3, 2020 at 19:50 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 30, 2019 at 3:41 | comment | added | GhostCat | @MonicaCellio I tried to be as neutral in my language as possible, but I agree that making that change is necessary. | |
Oct 30, 2019 at 3:39 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 29, 2019 at 21:32 | comment | added | Monica Cellio | In #2, I think an important factor for many is that the firing happened with no due process and then company representatives talked about it publicly in inappropriate ways. Mods have been fired before, but never like this and never with the extra added defamation. | |
Oct 29, 2019 at 20:07 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 10:40 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Mari-LouA Reworded again. I hope we can end this discussion right here, that is really not a detail that actually matters. Some content got deleted, some people can still see some of that, most can not. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:39 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 10:39 | comment | added | Ian Ringrose | 10k users can't see deleted comments. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:27 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | Better but "sometimes available to 10K users" is misleading, it suggests that deleted material is sometimes available to 10K. That's not true, Deleted posts are visible to them, how they find that deleted material is a separate issue, but with all the links to deleted posts (e.g. CoC FAQ) and links to deleted questions in the last month or so, that content will always be visible, until SE decides to redact (aka permanently delete) the content, which I wouldn't put past them. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:24 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 10:21 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Mari-LouA But I tried to further improve things. let me know if that works better now. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:18 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 10:15 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Mari-LouA This is about balancing. A) accuracy will require you to provide tons of material. Resulting in B) a lot of people going "I don't want to spend 2 hours reading this wall of text". When a person asks for a summary, they want a summary. The other answers here do a good job at providing the encyclopedia. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:11 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 10:09 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | @Mari-LouA How do you search for deleted posts as a mere +10k user? You may see them, but you can't find them as a non-mod! // Ghost: imo this focuses too much on 'pronounism'. In that way it can be easily misread for the 'broader context' being the gendering thing, and not dozens of related and different issues. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:03 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Mari-LouA Sometimes content is available to 10K users, sometimes it is gone. That is the key point here. The other way around: as soon as you start to explain all these details, the summary turns into an encyclopedia. Which I want to avoid here. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:02 | comment | added | GhostCat | @LаngLаngС I mainly made that point ... to point out that it isn't possible to give a "complete" summary that fits into the average attention span of average people these days. Seriously: I put up a link to the big meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/… in our company's slack. People were really confused. After I gave them the above 3 line summary, people were much happier. It allowed them to gather more information afterwards, because they got a rough map with the key elements. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 10:02 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | It's not "sometimes" available to 10K users, deleted posts are always visible to 10K users. Deleted comments are also visible to mods, and can also be resurrected by them. Doesn't happen often, but if a mod has deleted a comment, they can undelete it too. | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 9:56 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | For that "book" 1. we need an external backup, more robust to SC-censorship 2. a redactor that compiles that into readable form and keeps that current 3. a publisher. No really: historians, archae-sociologists and other fields need good and ideally complete source material for all their dissertations to write on this. // "Rift" is from plate tectonics? Then why not colour in the resulting volcanoes between the new continents? | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 9:48 | history | edited | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 28, 2019 at 9:23 | comment | added | user1306322 | a lot of the posts and comments relevant to the issue have been removed (such as the initial CoC post) and are only available to high rep users to see, so to get the fullest picture available to the public at the time you'll have to find saved screenshots or web page snapshots | |
Oct 28, 2019 at 9:06 | history | answered | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |