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Some proposals have no activity for 1 or more months and stay on Area 51. Some examples:

EDIT: I let just the best examples and my list resurrected some proposals :)

Some of them have "just" the lack of activity problem, but most have other problems either.

Proponents have no activity on Area 51 for months on some proposals.

People think that just building it is enough for a proposal to get success. It's a hard work.

If the proposal is really important it would be healthy it start again to prove its viability. Of course it rarely or never will happen.

What counts as activity?

I missed something visible? Are there not visible activities?

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    I'm curious about the down-votes.
    – Maniero
    Dec 31, 2010 at 20:09
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    A couple guesses... 1) Examples are great, examples are fine, but two pages of examples is excessive. 2) the "field of dreams" comment was unnecessary and somewhat mean. (FWIW: Robert has commented extensively on the A51 deletion strategy before - the "1 month no activity" thing does not seem to have ever been a hard and fast rule for deletion, and the current A51 FAQ merely states that such proposals "may be deleted")
    – Shog9
    Dec 31, 2010 at 20:32
  • @Shog9: Thanks for guesses. Better now? If a funny comment is reason to down-vote many more posts would be down-voted, probably half of yours that I read :) Most of questions listed on link provides barely touch the topic about deletion and none answers what I asked here. I'm not demanding any delete. I just ask about a doubt mine and provide an extensive list to help to point a review if needed. Anyway I think it's normal has a double standard about questions on a huge community, see: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/73557/…
    – Maniero
    Dec 31, 2010 at 23:56
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    the point of that link was that proposal deletion is a judgement call, with activity being just one factor. And yes, I do collect downvotes on many of my posts... It's natural.
    – Shog9
    Jan 1, 2011 at 2:44

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Proposals without activity prior to 2010-12-01 have been deleted, with few exceptions. Proposal activity includes added questions, comments, followers or committers, edits, and voting. Almost all the sites in your list contain such activity.

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    So latest activity is calculated wrongly? Let an useless comment is an ease way to keep abandoned proposals breathing through machines.
    – Maniero
    Dec 31, 2010 at 19:58
  • I shrink the list based on your answer.
    – Maniero
    Dec 31, 2010 at 23:58
  • @Robert: Can you update your answer to state about the possibility of latest activity is miscalculated?
    – Maniero
    Jan 4, 2011 at 23:19
  • @bigown: I don't understand what you feel is being miscalculated. I told you exactly what counts as activity. It's the last date of Proposal Creation, Proposal Comment, Follow, Commit, Question Creation, Question Comment, Question Edit, Question Vote. Jan 5, 2011 at 3:41
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    @Robert: See this example: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3748/debate-society Latest activity says 6 months (06-30-2010) but actual latest activity is 11-30-2010 (a follower) or later (I can't say when last vote was binded). As you stated in your original answer almost all the sites in my original huge list contain such activity. I did that list looking into LATEST ACTIVITY information on right bar, below the VIEWED information and the FOLLOWERS graph. In original list with ~150 proposals this information shows 1 month or more.
    – Maniero
    Jan 5, 2011 at 17:39
  • @bigown: I wonder if this shouldn't be a separate [bug]-report then...
    – Shog9
    Jan 5, 2011 at 17:59
  • @Shog9: Perhaps I post a bug report, but I'm confused yet.
    – Maniero
    Jan 5, 2011 at 18:14
  • @bigown: That's why you should post a bug report. You expect the system to work a certain way (latest activity to reflect any and all activity) but it appears to work a different way (latest activity reflects only edits or posts) - either that's considered a bug by the developers (and fixed in some fashion) or it's considered by-design (and marked accordingly for future reference). But regardless, it's outside the scope of this question.
    – Shog9
    Jan 5, 2011 at 18:24
  • @bigown: Ah, EUREKA! I understand what you are saying now. I didn't realize you were talking about the field labeled "Latest Activity" on the proposal screen. The screen display is showing different criteria (when last new question was posted). My database query is much more liberal in determining "latest activity" (pretty much when anything has been added, voted, or edited) to determine whether a proposal has been abandoned, or not. I guess there is an argument that they should be synced up because of the way the FAQ is written. Post it as a [feature-request]. Jan 6, 2011 at 3:37
  • @Robert: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/74229/…
    – Maniero
    Jan 7, 2011 at 17:20
  • I see that. @David's explanation is sound. Jan 7, 2011 at 17:35

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