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In the recent big news Congratulations to our 29 oldest beta sites - They're now no longer beta! a bunch of sites got "Promoted" and I think that is great and I don't have any issues with it. But as some related posts show it does leave something of a backlog to get these 29 updated.

What impact will this have on sites like Space Exploration that are consistently having 10+ questions per day, and are still in beta?

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No impact at all. There is still a so-called graduation process in place (even if that process is way broken and changes are in progress).

This was a simple quick-fix for sites that were so obviously NOT "in beta testing", we could do something RIGHT NOW with little risk of waiting to solve all the problems with that process.

The overwrought graduation workflow has not worked for a very long time. So instead of just sitting on our bums doing nothing until "all the stuff can be fixed", we took a small, incremental step to do the right thing, even if it couldn't help everybody.

I wouldn't get too wrapped up (yet) in what this means to sites not in that list. The goal of the new process is to simplify everything for everyone so the site lifecycle becomes simple, transparent, and understandable without having to wade through endless meta posts to figure out why you haven't moved on — but most of all, the goal is to build something sustainable so sites aren't perpetually waiting in unmovable cues and needlessly entangled in dependencies and process keeping them from getting the features they need to operate.

I am trying desperately to make that process as simple as possible so we don't end up just shuffling things around into different labels doing more of the same wrapping everything around contingencies and exceptions, waiting for limited resources over which we have no control, and waiting on the Community Team to stand judge over who gets what and when stuff should get done. We've been down that road before. Let's not perpetuate that process.

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Space Exploration isn't consistently having 10+ questions per day, not even if you include closed & deleted questions:

questions per week on Space.SE from 2018-01-01

(that's questions per week, to account for the weekends being slower)

Otherwise, the Community Team is still discussing about the graduation process, as @Catija mentioned here:

As @MonicaCellio says, we're in the process of re-envisioning what it means to be a full site. A lot of the questions you're asking are ones we're trying to understand, too! I'd love to see what y'all think about it, too... I love that you think moderation is an important part of that... I agree that the site culture and moderation is a factor - but one that's difficult for us to assess. It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts. On top of that, figuring out when the different bits associated with "Graduation" should be awarded.

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    It might just be happenstance, but over the last few months when I look at Area51 it has been showing high nines and low tens in the questions per day value. – James Jenkins Aug 2 at 13:42
  • I'm not exactly sure how the number in Area 51 is calculated and why (if) it deviates from SEDE. Might be a topic for another question :) – Glorfindel Aug 2 at 14:01
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    The statistic in Area 51 is calculated based on a rolling average over the past 14 days, and excludes deleted questions. It's not clear whether it excludes closed questions, however. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/294533/… – Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog Aug 2 at 14:53
  • ... and today I look and Space is at 8.6 questions per day.... – James Jenkins Aug 5 at 12:32

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