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When you click "edit" on a meta site as a non-edit-privileged user, the error message appears:

Suggested edits are not allowed on non-tag-wiki posts on meta sites.

Right as I was going to post this as a possible bug, I finally found this post which says that per-site Metas don't have suggested edits by-design because it's "not needed".

However, I've been participating a lot over at Skeptics meta where there is a lot still to be figured out in terms of site guidelines. The Meta is one of the most active I've seen and a lot of the questions are really trying to gather community-built suggestions. So maybe more of those need to be Community Wiki, but it still brings me to ask why don't per-site-metas "need" suggested edits?

Adding bounty: The more betas I participate in, the more I don't get this.

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    This just feels wrong to me in 2014 with all the improvements to review tools and the number of moderators that are around. The post saying low traffic -> edit can't be moderated seems backwards to me. When you have a beta site with low traffic, you need every person that cares to try to edit a post and contribute and not turn people away. I've asked for this edit ban to be repealed on beta sites, so let's see if that is a safer change than this to start with.
    – bmike
    Commented Mar 3, 2014 at 3:44
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    Having more than 1000 rep allows a person to edit per site meta as well
    – One Face
    Commented Jan 30, 2015 at 5:54
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    1000 only in beta site, it's 2000 on graduated sites. And this whole discussion is about suggested edits anyway.
    – Shadow Wizard
    Commented Feb 1, 2015 at 13:00
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    @bmike Thanks for this. I like to edit and feel like it's especially important to keep meta posts clean, as they're often active for years. Unfortunately, I asked in the SE Meta chat today if there had been any change to that policy and they said no. It wasn't somebody I know so I didn't ask for explanation, but I think it's too bad.
    – Sue Saddest Farewell TGO GL
    Commented Feb 12, 2015 at 1:39
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    This is even more strange when you realize that <2000 users can suggest edits to tag wikis on Meta sites.
    – Glorfindel Mod
    Commented Mar 30, 2017 at 13:09
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    Why not simply remove the ‘edit’ link? It prevents the confusion.
    – cobrexus
    Commented Mar 10, 2020 at 13:01
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    Related: Allow suggested edits on site metas and show them in the main site queue
    – galacticninja
    Commented Jun 20, 2023 at 3:57

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Meta review queues should be integrated into the main site's review

Low meta participation is a problem. Since a policy is decided in meta, it can be discouraging to discover that people don't know about meta or simply ignore it. But even as a meta-junkie, I was surprised to see that there is a suggested edit queue on the per-site-metas... for tag wikis. For obvious reasons, this is rarely populated.

At any rate, if the only reason for not allowing suggested edits is the limited number of people who will be able to review them, why not implement the suggestion made by Paŭlo Ebermann and Kevin Vermeer?

Here is a mock-up (sans the dynamic bits):

Close Votes
Vote whether or not to close questions with close votes

Late Answers
Review late answers from new users

First Posts
Review first posts from new users

Low Quality Posts
Identify, then improve or delete low-quality posts

Reopen Votes
Vote whether or not to reopen closed questions with reopen votes

Suggested Edits
Approve, reject, or improve edits suggested by users

Meta Close Votes
Vote whether or not to close meta questions with close votes

Meta Reopen Votes
Vote whether or not to reopen closed meta questions with reopen votes

Meta Suggested Edits
Approve, reject, or improve edits suggested by users

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    Why separate meta X from X? And while you're at it, I'd like mod flags to be unified too.
    – Gilles 'SO- stop being evil'
    Commented Apr 22, 2014 at 0:04
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    Any chance of adding suggested edits to meta sites?
    – tchrist
    Commented Nov 30, 2015 at 1:05
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    So Jon Ericson seems to have suggested this over 3 years ago - has there been any progress towards this being allowed/possible?
    – 3N1GM4
    Commented Dec 12, 2016 at 13:20
  • Hi, is this happening ever? It's been six years.
    – Stormblessed
    Commented Dec 17, 2019 at 4:50
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    Why not simply remove the ‘edit’ link? It prevents the confusion.
    – cobrexus
    Commented Mar 10, 2020 at 13:00
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I like to edit where I go, and hate seeing the posts in need of attention. It's just frustrating to be able to fix posts everywhere, except on the SE Meta sites. It actually gives less motivation to check on them (and decreases the potential to earn badges on them).

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Mostly because the per-site metas are generally low traffic -- some of them count daily visits in the dozens.

That means the moderators will have to do the work, since the 10k site users are the only ones that can even see this queue. And on many sites, like say Bicycles -- there are exactly zero users at this rep level, even after many months.

https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/users?tab=reputation&filter=all

(highest rep on Bicycles as of the time I am writing is 5.6k)

We were uncomfortable adding Yet Another Queue for Moderators to Look At across every site in the network.

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    Maybe the edit queue need to be visible to the top n% of users or all users with over 10K (the the opiton that gives the most users) to cope with sites like bicycles.
    – Ian Ringrose
    Commented Jul 4, 2011 at 9:49
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    The edits could show up in the same edit queue as edits on the main site (and be highlighted in the top bar like the edits there).
    – Paŭlo Ebermann
    Commented Oct 15, 2011 at 20:02
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    Just integrate it into the queue on the main site if it's low-traffic! As you noted, there's not a lot of high-rep users on SE 2.0 sites, so it's already a moderator task.
    – Kevin Vermeer
    Commented Oct 20, 2011 at 16:14
  • Am I to understand that once a user reaches 2000 rep, they can edit other people's posts on meta sites?
    – Mr Lister
    Commented Feb 10, 2013 at 14:26
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    Can this at the very least be made a configuration option. Meta.Stackoverflow.com has no problems getting enough reviewers, even on its meta.
    – Martijn Pieters
    Commented Jun 30, 2014 at 12:26
  • @MartijnPieters I think you may have commented on the wrong post, this defector has his hands full working for the Dark Side nowadays...old habits die hard?
    – user163250
    Commented Jun 30, 2014 at 12:34
  • @Cupcake: I know where he's at now. The comment is more directed at a general audience.
    – Martijn Pieters
    Commented Jun 30, 2014 at 12:36
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    What if they would have a complete queue where all of their todo tasks would be summed up?
    – peterh
    Commented Sep 10, 2016 at 21:31
  • Related: Allow suggested edits on site metas and show them in the main site queue
    – galacticninja
    Commented Jun 20, 2023 at 3:57
  • Someone is wrong on the internet today (well, quite a while back in time). If people can't edit an answer on meta, they will just give up or post the improvement as another answer while thinking "wth came up with this restriction".
    – Gao
    Commented Aug 26 at 7:13

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